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    Die Satzung würde „wohlmeinende“ Suppenküchenbesuche auf der Straße für Obdachlose in Dublin verbieten


    Die Satzung würde „wohlmeinende“ Suppenküchenbesuche auf der Straße für Obdachlose in Dublin verbieten

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/dublin/2024/12/27/on-street-soup-kitchens-to-be-banned-under-new-dublin-city-council-bylaws/

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    2. Fantastic_Section517 on

      Translation.

      We don’t want to see hungry people queuing for food because ewwww.

    3. Negative-Disk3048 on

      Good luck getting this through the council. Nobody in their right mind apart from ardent fg heads would go for this.

    4. TheChrisD on

      > Karl Mitchell, who represented the council on the Dublin taskforce, said the council had been in ongoing contact with volunteers ahead of drafting the bylaws. The street was “not the right place” to offer such services, but he said any new laws would be complemented by an increase in indoor services.

      No, see, you need to make the indoor services available ***first***, *then* you can ban the outdoor stuff.

    5. champagneface on

      “The street was “not the right place” to offer such services, but he said any new laws would be complemented by an increase in indoor services.“

      Find that hard to take at face value.

    6. IrishCrypto on

      Tone deaf. The Capuchin day centre can’t cope with the demand. So now they’ll leave people hungry for bureaucratic reasons.

      Street markets where people pay for artisan hummus are great, but street food for the poor are inappropriate. 

    7. FakeNewsMessiah on

      They won’t police it, I mean guards are like hen’s teeth walking around unless there’s some dignitary in town.

    10. Weepsie on

      Another way of rather than tackling the issue, the council just being hostile to homeless people

    11. Unlikely_Ad6219 on

      Some of these homeless people are quite tall and they ruin the famous Dublin skyline.

    12. Internal_Sun_9632 on

      What feels like only last week, people were saying how the majority of people availing of these on street sevices were students and roma gang’s just abusing the Capuchin free food.

      Whats the truth or is everyone adding their two cents just talking out their hole?

    13. yankdevil on

      Why not make indoor spaces available and invide the volunteers running on street soup kitchens to use those spaces? Then they don’t have to ban anything.

    14. senditup on

      They certainly shouldn’t be allowed to operate at the likes of the GPO, the centre of our capital city, and a destination for most of the tourists who come here.

    15. Horror_Finish7951 on

      Devil’s advocate – a lot of these people mean well but there’s a number of issues around them

      First is that the food itself isn’t made in a kitchen where HACCP training is around and therefore can’t be guaranteed to be fit for human consumption. They also don’t have a certified cold chain.

      Many also aren’t registered charities and don’t produce audited accounts.

      The other issue is that Dublin has an over concentration of these types of runs and they detract away from the 3 main DRHE subcontractors (Focus, Simon and PMV). Those 3 should be the only providers of services in the city because they’re trained, will provide certified food safe for human consumption and they link in with housing services, HSE services for things like mental health and addiction, Gardaí, social workers and many more.

      Excluding IPAS applicants, there are 128 rough sleepers in Dublin as per the last count and 118 of these were individuals known to the service and generally have an accomodation guarantee, but for all sorts of reasons they don’t show up.

      We’re not far from a situation where we’re going to have a unique homeless service for every rough sleeper in the city.

    16. Top-Engineering-2051 on

      Outreach to homeless people is a job, which requires training, skill, and experience. It should not be an amateur exercise, however well-intentioned. Of course, the state needs to ensure that the gap is filled by the indoor, professional services described, but they are correct that professional standards must be maintained. Working with vulnerable people is a job, not a vocation. 

    17. Chester_roaster on

      Good because the street isn’t the place for soup kitchens, and it encourages homeless to stay in the area. 

    18. OfficerPeanut on

      When we said “do something about the homeless crisis” this isn’t what we meant!!

    19. floor-pie on

      Be cynical all you want, but whenever I walk past the Muslim Sisters of Eire it’s clear that the vast majority of those people are not homeless.

      I’m not suggesting they’re living a great life if they feel the need to queue for food, but if you hand out free things, it will create its own demand and a whole host of new problems.

    20. jhanley on

      Sum up the attitude of the mandarin class to people in need, fucking woeful

    21. lakeofshadows on

      Getting more like America every day. And that is far from a good thing.

      Do you remember that child who went missing, and turned up a few years later, only it transpired he was an adult imposter? And it was clear that his family knew, but just ignored it because they wanted so badly for their son to be back?

      That didn’t instantly nullify my compassion and empathy for missing children and their families.

      Are there some shameless beings who will always take advantage of the well-meaning for things that they don’t need? Yes, of course, that’s just a sad reality. Should we punish and turn our backs upon the vast majority in genuine need just because of that minority? No.

      And all the while, you point at the poor with disdain, whilst the rich laugh as they pick your pockets.

      “There’s class warfare all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning”.

      Warren Buffett.

    25. Intelligent-Aside214 on

      This is reasonable. Paris has a homelessness problem too but you don’t see soup kitchens on the champs-elysee, because it attracts anti-social behaviour

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