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11 Comments
The Yiddish and Dutch word literally means “wine grape”
grappe still means the same as the old french. grape is raisin but when you have a “cluster” of grapes you say a “grappe de raisin”
German also still uses Traube for a general clusters. Like the word “Menschentraube” to describe a congregation of people.
A single grape is also called Weinbeere in German, because a “Traube” refers to a cluster not to a single thing. While Weintraube is colliquially used it is botanically and semantically wrong.
I say Weintraube, idk why. Im from south germany
As an Austrian, I’ve never heard the word Weinba or -beer. Seems to be a Bavarian term mostly?
Besides that, as some people have mentioned, Weinbeere describes a single grape, whereas Weintraube describes the whole bunch. Traube in general describes a bunch of something.
I love these circular etymologies. One is “wine-berry” meaning “berry of a drink made of grapes” and the other is “grape” coming from a word meaning “to pick grapes”.
Interesting
So uh… [Milana Vayntrub](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milana_Vayntrub) is Milana Grape? Wait, I think I remember Milana meaning something like “beloved”. So she is Beloved Grape? Kinda cool, actually.
Danish should be “Vindrue”, referring to them just as “Drue” would make sense I guess, but I’ve literally never heard anyone do it.
So the Germanic word doesnt have a descendant in English but I assume it would be *throuve?