Die Ukraine könne Russland in zehn Jahren angreifen, eine NATO-Mitgliedschaft könne das verhindern, sagt Kuleba

https://news.liga.net/en/politics/news/ukraine-may-attack-russia-in-10-years-nato-membership-can-prevent-it-says-kuleba

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  1. Mental-Ad-2980 on

    Ukrainians are arguably the best, most battle proven soldiers to fight since WW2. Russia should be afraid of what Ukraine can do in 10 years with the incredible military industrial complex they are building and the tactical knowledge Ukraine possesses now

    Russia won’t improve. They will rearm but remain very hindered by corruption and just general stupidity. 2035 Ukraine will be stronger than Russia ever was. Ukraine and Poland will be able to crush Russia entirely on their own.

  2. flossypants on

    It raises a point. But Ukraine NATO membership doesn’t preclude Ukraine sending “green men” or unclaimed drones to Russia while standing behind NATO’s nuclear umbrella. While Russia will certainly continue their hybrid warfare towards Ukraine (and many other countries), Ukrainian special operations seem more effective than Russia’s these days, Ukrainian are indistinguishable from Russians, and Russia is attempting to hold 600,000 sq.km of Ukrainian land containing ~4m Ukrainian citizens, some of whom will support an insurgency. With Ukraine in NATO, Russia couldn’t hope to gain more land. But Ukraine could hope to make Russia withdraw from its territories, which will likely remain internationally recognized as Ukrainian. A lot of things in Russia may go boom while a “ceasefire” holds.

    Crimea: ~2.4 million (before the 2022 invasion, many of whom are now Russian citizens due to the annexation in 2014).

    Occupied parts of Donetsk and Luhansk: ~1.5 million.

    Occupied parts of Zaporizhzhia and Kherson: ~500,000 to 1 million.

  3. I have been making the same point since the start of the war. Ukraine in NATO is the best security guarantee for Russia.

  4. The first thing Ukraine should do is to ban Russian language on his territory. Even is sounds terrible for some of you. The Russian propaganda is dangerous like an atomic bomb. No Russian speaking less chance for propaganda to penetrate it.

    I am speaking about any interaction with authorities. At home they can speak what they want.
    Just imagine the Ukraine will become very powerful and able to fight Russia. Now imagine that Russian propaganda brain washed the Ukrainians and some local Putin will start invading western neighbors of Ukraine, with or without Russia.

    To achieve such goal Russia will not need to fight against a very powerful Ukraine but make them an ally.

    Right now the biggest threat of the world is Russian style propaganda. This is the most powerful weapon ever created by a country leader and it will be not eliminated in next years. Many.

  5. Better_Challenge5756 on

    Before the war a bunch of my tech team was based in Ukraine. Tragically some were killed. But they were among the most intelligent, hard working, industrious folks I have ever worked with and the quality of their work was amazing.

    I feel confident that if they focus on military industries they will become a powerhouse.

    God willing this leads to peace and a victory that includes total recapture of their land.

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