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14 Comments
Wait until they grow up, then we’ll all have a problem.
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I was only at school 20 years ago and there was only one lad who actually physically attacked a teacher. We never saw him again after that day, I assume he was expelled. Is that not still the case?
We literally have schools full of weak adults who can’t control teenagers, who don’t know how to speak to teenagers or exert authority and respect.
Absolute state of us.
Cameras in every classroom. Automatic expulsion for physical attacks. Prosecute parents.
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Pulled a student off another pretty gently given the circumstances by their bag the other day. He immediately turned all his attention to me saying “you can’t touch me”, well actually I can if you’re fighting someone. They think they are untouchable, which I guess they are to an extent. My school prides itself on giving students opportunities, basically if they are not in school they will be involved in crime outside of school, in principle that’s fine, but all it does is drag down the rest of the school community. The issue is not schools, they can only do so much, the fact we have no alternative place to send these students is the problem, we need so many more special provision schools, but they cost money and we are too short sighted to see how much more money they will cost the tax payer when they are unemployed and in and out of prison. I’d honestly look to link education up with the military and provide education that route that in future students can take in to other fields.
They should be straight down to an army base and do 6 weeks there. Scrubbing toilet bowls, assault courses, 5am starts and shit gangster haircuts shaved off.
Then community service when back. Get the laws changed so it can happen.
Too many parents are hiding behind mental disabilities, instead of actually disciplining their children. It’s no coincidence that there’s a drastic rise at the same time as diagnosis’ are rising. It’s just parents using it as an excuse to justify their undisciplined kids
Tbh it’s the support staff who have to deal with the brunt of it all and I say that as a teacher. One p1 I did supply in recently the support staff were excellent but getting attacked on a weekly basis. The child (and there were others too but not as bad) would bite or punch.
I’m sure this article is about sen schools not main stream ones
Ranged attacks and combat spells. Hand to hand is for plebs.
There needs to be a credible threat of consequences for bad behaviour.
For centuries that threat is physical pain. It’s become morally unacceptable recently to apply that, but the people who make that moral argument haven’t provided any kind of alternative that works.
It’s not so much that you actually have to slap the kids who are acting up, as that you have to be able to provide a *credible threat* to do so. Physical intervention should probably still require a report and a review, because otherwise you do get a tiny minority of abusers getting into teaching so they can hit kids. But it must be available as a last resort for children that refuse to engage with verbal punishment.
This article is mostly about special schools where a bunch of the kids might not even have the mental capacity to engage with normal punishment, and a physical negative reinforcement for bad behaviour might be the only way to get through. They are certainly testing boundaries and seeing that, well, there basically aren’t any, whatever they do they just get asked nicely to please refrain.
Getting the police involved (as this is clearly assault) could work as well if the police would actually come out and put the kid in question in the cells for a day, but I imagine they don’t do that even if you report them.
I do not condone physical punishment from parents to their children in any capacity and anyone who slaps their child is disgusting.
However, I have seen *first hand* from my parent friends the level of “soft touch” parenting that’s rife. “You just need to reason with them” No, these kids aren’t developed enough to understand true reasoning and before its too late, they’ve developed the knowledge they can get away with anything and the worst thing is “a look of disappointment” from their parent.