In ganz Europa ist eine Koalition aus Faschisten, Putin-Verbündeten und anderen rechtsextremen Parteien auf dem Vormarsch. Sie sind gut finanziert (meist von Ausländern) und gut organisiert. Wird die EU jemals gegen Staaten vorgehen, die aktiv versuchen, die Demokratie zu beenden, oder werden interne Spaltungen zwischen den Mitgliedern dazu führen, dass es zu wenig und zu spät ist? Leben wir in einer modernen Weimarer Republik?
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/politics/article/2024/03/01/putin-s-allies-in-the-european-parliament-rally-around-le-pen-s-party_6576763_5.html
Von Careful-Swimmer-2658
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It is democracy even when you don’t like the results. Democracy doesn’t mean that your preferred candidate or parties win elections.
Dont worry we are still in the appeasement fase.
All politicians keep using X like its no problem and keep getting dragged in by the us to buy more of their guns, To be clear defense is important, but trump doesnt want more nato spending just because he is concerend, We cant trust the chinese but the US has so much data on us and that is fine… I dont want to be this conspiratorial but we look so weak. We have forgotten the lessons of the world wars,
**TLDR SUMMARY**
Marine Le Pen’s Rassemblement National (RN) faces renewed scrutiny over its association with the pro-Putin Bulgarian party Vazrajdane, which recently joined the far-right European alliance Identity and Democracy (ID). In a private note to party members, Le Pen expressed concern that this connection could attract criticism as the June 2024 European elections approach, particularly from opponents who accuse RN of having ties to Putin. Despite her reservations, RN members, including Jordan Bardella, shared a stage with Vazrajdane leader Kostadin Kostadinov, known for his controversial views, at an ID rally in Florence in December 2023. This situation illustrates RN’s challenge in balancing the unity of the European far-right with the potential political fallout from being perceived as connected to the Kremlin.
What democracy? Europe was never democratic. Dictatorship by definition, no question about it. It is just disgusting how europeand decided to stick their heads in the sand and just conform with it. Well, now that strikes back and we auropeans have no right to whine about it. It is just pure justice and punishment right now for us.
Any title formulated as a question can be answered with “No”.
Probably not, or too late.
Sometimes it does seem like we are living in the Weimar era.
What we NEED to do is take decisive action. In the public eye, using the coirt system and the public institutions if possible. But Covertly if necessary. Operation Gladio.
Start with anyone, any politician, any political party that is known to have Rubles in their bank account.
Examples should be made. And it has to be raken seriously, since this is basically a matter of national security. Just remember that in Ukraine, before there was a full-scale Russian invasion, there were “little green men”. And before that, there were populist politicians with rubles in their bank accounts.
This is how it starts.
No, we are cooked.
The only upside is that Russian leadership is really stupid
What i don’t get is why China is still so anti-west at this point, the left is threatened to the very core, and instead they rely on supporting far right countries like Russia
I think I’ve read somewhere this: when all go to the right side, doesn’t take much and they starting wars with each others. With no doubt, we didn’t learned anything from history.
EU must first admit that the far right is right about some of the issues they campaign on, mainly the immigration failure
Okay, I’m not a fan of Russia, have my comment history to prove it. But… These parties are right leaning, Russia is pretty right leaning, what if they simply have similar sympathies and because of that why wouldn’t they communicate as they will definitely be looking to cooperate in the future? And if the people also think that way and want to vote for it… Isn’t that just democracy? Like when should we suppress a political movement?
Like just say, hypothetically, 60% of the French population votes for a party that is super pro Russia and wants to be allies and what have you. That would absolutely be good for Russia, but the population also voted for it. Should that then be stopped? What if the party in question is super pro US, should they then also be stopped?
First urgent measure is to ban tik tok , second measure is ban X and meta of they won’t take action to limit bots and propaganda .
What a pearl. The question is will the EU protect democracy by imposing authoritarian actions against states that have democratically elected governments.
Such a statement could only be created in liberal mind that wants to hear only its own thoughts.
Well, EU banned Azov, because only Ukrainians are not allowed to be nationalists
Europe will respond just as fast as the US did: too late.
Elon already has Europe in his sights.
Democracy was run, but looking back it was naive thinking it would last.
We will continue sinking holding on to the “freedom of speech” flag while fascists and autocrats gradually dismantle our rights, freedoms and societies.
No it won’t. History itself is meant to repeat itself if we forget the mistake that led us to the last event in history. Forget and repeat.
as long we cannot speak of certain subject then no
Sure, it’ll take the wrong action as usual
In Bulgaria we are “blessed” with both the left and the right being pro “peace”. That absolute retard on the right is our “guy”.
Its scary, indeed! The stupidity and selfishness of these people, who vote for them is just sad; but that happens when you first of all drop investments into education dramatically over decades – which all common parties are guilty of, and at the same time when you increase the expectations about government spending, which no one can fulfill over longer terms…
And just like in the US, Europe is not doing enough to prevent the rise of these groups. What are we paying them for? Seriously…
Those morons are only organised at the corrupt top, they can’t get anything done on the ground, as all they care about is lining their pockets and there’s no support from the civil servant level who actually have to make the policies a reality that these scumbags invent…their incompetence will make them fail and fail hard
USA strategy in Europe, keep Americans in, Germans down, and Russians out. Circa 1950s Lord Ismay NATO Secretary General. Europeans really need to just stand up for themselves. Do they ever realize how much better they are compared to the others without being pressured into a bad relationship?
I’ve been reading these headlines for about 3 years… Will you?
Honestly, I think they will play by the rules too long until it’s too late.
spoiler: no
Hmmm I really wonder why the right is on the rise… it’s almost as if the current system may not work the way it supposed to…
No, we won’t. The russian-backed fashists act in the open and also all those social-media propaganda tools spit their poison in the open but our overaged, sclerotic politics are neither willing not able to act.
People complain that the plot of “The Rings of Power” ist so much foreseeable and why all the protagonists do never uncover Sauron’s plans although they look so obvious but in reality he sits in the Kremlin, starts wars and openly says “I am Sauron and I send my minions to you since years to undermine your countries and to finally take them over”. And all our politicians do is discussing about how not to anger him too much, how much his victims should hand him over and how to come back to good relations again while letting his propaganda flow like a river…
So in your mind, the existence of the Weimar Republic isn’t the problem?
The pro-russian rats aren’t only part of the far-right. Schröder jumps to mind immediately and if it wasn’t for the war in Ukraine, Fillon would probably be swimming in a pool of russian hydrocarbons.
It’s just probable that far-right make better targets because they want to disassemble the EU and Nato in addition to filling their own pockets.
What a shame Russia wasn’t dismantled post-1991….
I suppose reasonable immigration policies and protection of blue collar workers – who are losing their jobs in droves thanks to Chinese imports – would be a good way to slow the rise of the right.
It is cute how people on the left, of which this French website is a part, are constantly blaming anyone but themselves for the rise of right-leaning political parties gaining ground across the Western world. People are tired of the extremist left-wing politics that have dominated the conversation for the last 10+ years and they want change.
Literally, all they’d have to do is manage immigration and deport people who aren’t supposed to be in Europe. If they did that the far right would die overnight
Democracy is ending because the side you don’t like is what people want to vote for, is that it?