It gives sexworkers the same rights and protections as other workers, so yes I would say it’s a net positive. It should also help crack down on bad agents in the sector as they either follow workers protections or get prosecuted as pimps, which previously was a grey area.
Wientje on
This is a huge win and the result of multiple years of coordinated effort by the closest thing they have to a union.
Selphis on
Prostitution will always exist. Either you ban it and let human traffickers run it illegally, or you regulate it and protect the workers.
This is a win.
v01dlurker on
Many sexworkers are part of human trafficking , they will probably not be eligable for this.
Plenkr on
yeah, that’s a win.
fnv_fan on
As long as they pay taxes just like everyone else
KurtKrimson on
Of course this is a win, sex workers aren’t any less than the lazy inefficient government workforce……. on the contrary!
BigTonyMacaroni on
Ja, ik wil niet weten hoeveel mannen andere dingen zouden uitspoken zonder deze “uitlaatklep”.
nightwish5270 on
If you can’t get rid of it, might as well tax it.
theta0123 on
If they pay taxes, its all fine by me. They contribute and thus should get rights to everything from HI, Pensions, sick days, maternity leave and such. Probaly would even add extra protection for the industry they live in. Violent customers & “bosses” are not uncommon in that sector i bet.
Lama_For_Hire on
Honestly it’s stuff that makes me proud to be a Belgian.
Kindness and protection for an otherwise vulnerable part of society
Matthias_90 on
Yes
-it takes sexwork out of the illegal circuit (bad for human traffickers)
-it protects the sexworkers (can file official complaints, they can unionize, if they are employed they will have to go to “arbeidsgeneeskunde” where they can signal a toxic work environment)
-they will pay taxes on the income (good for the tax-revenue )
-if you go to a sexworker and want to be sure you’re not going to someone exploited, it will be easier to check (unionized?, certificate from labor doctor, …)
-it’s possible to have a contract between sexworker and client of the agreed price and what is permitted, if you go outside the contract it will be sexual assault.
yes I’m aware their will still be an illegal circuit, but if it’s possible to go legal I think a lot of people will do it.
shiny_glitter_demon on
Of course it’s a win?
Why/how would people getting rights and/or better lives *not* be a win??
Tomvo95 on
Now there will be prostitutes who will be sick for 4 years (like cleaning ladies). I do like the fact that they are now protected by the social security system, but there will be a lot of profiteering involved
LifeIsAnAdventure4 on
Leftists may change their mind about this being a win when they need to take such a « job » or lose unemployment benefits. Obviously not the case now but if you normalize prostitution as regular work, it is the obvious next step in the slippery slope.
miffebarbez on
it’ s not without flaws ( example: apparently there is something about refusing customers… which no other employee can do, as far as i know)…. I also think it won’t be a success because pimps won’t register and being “self employed” has fiscal advantages….
Fernand_de_Marcq on
Like it or not, it is always a win when “précarisés” people gets rights.
Also, think of the baby.
the6thReplicant on
Why is there a lens flare (or whatever) on the x of sex?
Artshildr on
Yes. It’s an enormous win
F1Hybrid on
Sex. The first word is SEX.
ExcellentCold7354 on
I’m not technically a Belgian, but I am damn proud to live here. Common sense legislation that actually helps people is at a premium these days.
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Work is work. So yes, obviously.
It gives sexworkers the same rights and protections as other workers, so yes I would say it’s a net positive. It should also help crack down on bad agents in the sector as they either follow workers protections or get prosecuted as pimps, which previously was a grey area.
This is a huge win and the result of multiple years of coordinated effort by the closest thing they have to a union.
Prostitution will always exist. Either you ban it and let human traffickers run it illegally, or you regulate it and protect the workers.
This is a win.
Many sexworkers are part of human trafficking , they will probably not be eligable for this.
yeah, that’s a win.
As long as they pay taxes just like everyone else
Of course this is a win, sex workers aren’t any less than the lazy inefficient government workforce……. on the contrary!
Ja, ik wil niet weten hoeveel mannen andere dingen zouden uitspoken zonder deze “uitlaatklep”.
If you can’t get rid of it, might as well tax it.
If they pay taxes, its all fine by me. They contribute and thus should get rights to everything from HI, Pensions, sick days, maternity leave and such. Probaly would even add extra protection for the industry they live in. Violent customers & “bosses” are not uncommon in that sector i bet.
Honestly it’s stuff that makes me proud to be a Belgian.
Kindness and protection for an otherwise vulnerable part of society
Yes
-it takes sexwork out of the illegal circuit (bad for human traffickers)
-it protects the sexworkers (can file official complaints, they can unionize, if they are employed they will have to go to “arbeidsgeneeskunde” where they can signal a toxic work environment)
-they will pay taxes on the income (good for the tax-revenue )
-if you go to a sexworker and want to be sure you’re not going to someone exploited, it will be easier to check (unionized?, certificate from labor doctor, …)
-it’s possible to have a contract between sexworker and client of the agreed price and what is permitted, if you go outside the contract it will be sexual assault.
yes I’m aware their will still be an illegal circuit, but if it’s possible to go legal I think a lot of people will do it.
Of course it’s a win?
Why/how would people getting rights and/or better lives *not* be a win??
Now there will be prostitutes who will be sick for 4 years (like cleaning ladies). I do like the fact that they are now protected by the social security system, but there will be a lot of profiteering involved
Leftists may change their mind about this being a win when they need to take such a « job » or lose unemployment benefits. Obviously not the case now but if you normalize prostitution as regular work, it is the obvious next step in the slippery slope.
it’ s not without flaws ( example: apparently there is something about refusing customers… which no other employee can do, as far as i know)…. I also think it won’t be a success because pimps won’t register and being “self employed” has fiscal advantages….
Like it or not, it is always a win when “précarisés” people gets rights.
Also, think of the baby.
Why is there a lens flare (or whatever) on the x of sex?
Yes. It’s an enormous win
Sex. The first word is SEX.
I’m not technically a Belgian, but I am damn proud to live here. Common sense legislation that actually helps people is at a premium these days.
third post in 2 days?
here
[https://www.reddit.com/r/belgium/comments/1h3zy72/sekswerkers_hebben_vanaf_vandaag_een_volwaardig/](https://www.reddit.com/r/belgium/comments/1h3zy72/sekswerkers_hebben_vanaf_vandaag_een_volwaardig/)
and here
[https://www.reddit.com/r/belgium/comments/1h3zsfm/belgiums_sex_workers_get_maternity_leave_and/](https://www.reddit.com/r/belgium/comments/1h3zsfm/belgiums_sex_workers_get_maternity_leave_and/)
De voornaamste reden is om hun inkomsten ook te kunnen belasten, niks te maken met “welzijn”
How can this NOT be a win I’m genuinely curious?
Does that mean “independents” also get sick days?
More rights is always good. The problem is transforming the rights into reality.