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***The Telegraph reports:***
Sir Keir Starmer warned Donald Trump on Monday night that he would not side with America against the EU, despite calls from the president-elect’s allies to choose between Brussels and Washington.
In a major foreign policy speech, the Prime Minister said it was “plain wrong” to suggest that Mr Trump’s return to the White House meant Britain had to either get closer to Europe or the US.
He vowed instead to build bridges to both continents, promising to “invest more deeply than ever in this transatlantic bond with our American friends”, and to “rebuild our ties with Europe too”.
The speech included overtures to Mr Trump, with the Prime Minister stressing the need to prepare Ukraine for peace negotiations and calling on Europe to spend more on defence.
Since Mr Trump’s resounding victory in the US presidential election last month, there has been debate about whether Sir Keir must now embrace America or Europe.
Some of the Republican’s allies have waded into the argument, with Stephen Moore, his senior economic adviser, saying the UK must reject the EU’s “socialist model”. Sir Keir has faced pressure from within his own party to reject Mr Trump and rebuild ties with the EU.
However, in his speech to the Lord Mayor’s Banquet in London on Monday evening, the Prime Minister rejected the “either/or” choice.
He said: “Against the backdrop of these dangerous times, the idea that we must choose between our allies – that somehow we’re with either America or Europe – is plain wrong. I reject it utterly. [Clement] Attlee did not choose between allies. [Winston] Churchill did not choose. The national interest demands that we work with both.
“Our relationship with the United States has been the cornerstone of our security and our prosperity for over a century. We will never turn away from that. We call it the special relationship for a reason. It is written not in some dry, dusty treaty, but in the ink of shared sacrifice.”
He added on Europe: “And we will rebuild our ties with Europe too. Because I’m sorry to say the shocking legacy this Government inherited in so many areas – from the nation’s finances to the state of the NHS – extends beyond our shores.
“They turned their back on the world. Took vital relationships for granted. Neglected some allies – and spurned others. Our reputation as a trusted, stable, dependable partner was replaced too often with an image of disarray governed by short-term political concerns, veering from one extreme to another.”
Downing Street insiders hope Mr Trump will overlook fierce criticism issued about him in the past by many Labour cabinet ministers, including David Lammy, the Foreign Secretary, who previously called the president-elect a “tyrant” and a “sociopath”.
**Full story:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/12/02/starmer-warns-trump-britain-wont-side-with-us-against-eu/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/12/02/starmer-warns-trump-britain-wont-side-with-us-against-eu/)
Definitely trade war incoming.
They’ll never take back John Oliver!
He will take a u turn. Bet
Because Trump is the new Hitler.
Until their conservative party win future elections because transwomen existing is the worst thing that has happened to their country.
Trump believes Putin has his back.
Maybe the UK should join the Eurozone economy.
I hope he stands by it.
Maybe someone should tell the Brits that now is the time to start kissing Trump’s ass, and not to antagonize him. Otherwise, once Trump gets into power, he might just make Nigel Farage the next PM.
Why do people think why we spend so much money on the CIA? Why can’t there be a color revolution in Britain?
Thank god there’ll be a grown up in charge during Trump’s term. I can’t imagine how much more screwed up things would get in the UK if it was Johnson or Truss.
Good. Why would you want to side with a nation run by psychopaths?
And this is why Elon is meddling in UK politics now. Elon needs Strarmer out and Nigel Farage in.
I am still incredibly angry that the british people fell for the lies of the Brexit campaign. For the longest time, i was of the opinion to let them enjoy the self inflicted suffering.
That beeing said, they are europeans. They always have been, and they always will be. The most annoying kind of euopean, but who is pointing fingers.
If they want closer association to form a united front against the US fascists, we should do it. Trumpism will be defeated by unity, not division.
Time to get the tea or coffee and popcorn, guys!
I think Starmer is on Reddit too much. It’s always telling when a politician has to play to their base too much. If you don’t follow UK politics closely, he’s having a tough few weeks
The idiotic decision that was Brexit has never looked so idiotic.
Edit. It is weird to spend your entire life taking for granted that UK supermarkets will always have what you want and now find empty parts of the fruit and vegetables shelves where stuff you want used to be. It is remarkable that the media seem to not be interested in covering it. A bit like how silent they were when the leave campaign were lying their lying arses off the whole time.
THAT’S WHY MUSK IS DONATING 100+ MIL to Farange. Godamn Putin is like a wizard
A lying headline from a newspaper actively trying to hurt the UK that is used constantly in these types of subs despite being obvious propaganda rags.
Was kind of hoping the UK could just sneak under the radar of the fascist state and maybe play both sides with the EU and America.
Has Britain thought about joining the EU? It sounds like an economically strategic match…/s
If the USA abandon Ukraine, no one will ever forgive them.
Starmer Warns Trump!
Honestly, I know Trump is a thin skinned orange Baboon but he won’t pay any heed to that little nerd and his pathetic attempts at Mr tough guy stance.
I give Starmer 6 months before he reverses this latest anti Trump manifesto, pledge, deal, statement etc
Await a further rinse and repeat reboot of this party next week.
I’m surprised Starmer hasn’t deflected the sh1te going on within his own government by slinging mud a celebrity mucky innuendo merchant Gregg Wallace yet.
We may not be in it anymore, but we’re far closer to the EU than we ever will be with America – and even more so now Trump is going to be at the wheel. The UK has made a U-turn to the left while the USA has floored the accelerator to drive sharply to the right and off a cliff (and into territory so nightmarishly extreme that it’ll make Trump’s first presidency look left-leaning).
Trump’s administration is going to make the European Union much more powerful.
Good. This is totally understandable. Fuck this America first BS
The Trump protectionist approach is so short sighted its crazy. All the threats and bully tactics to make the US prosper will change the whole world ecosystem. The US has been the de facto power in the world due to close relationships and this big brother attitude to many countries around the world.
Start to act like the bully and countries will shift their alliegences and start thinking of alternative plans that pushes away from the US, maybe not immediately as so much is intertwined with the US economy and dollar but they’ll start the foundations of moving away from the US.
UK/EU should absolutely grow closer over the US, it’s nonesicle to think otherwise. They are our neighbours and even though we dont all share a language we share a long rich history going back many centuries.
Europe/UK should also be more open to building closer relationships with China and India and stop being so reliant on the US.
Primary reason being as we should be doing what’s best for prosperity so straddling between the 2 biggest economies/powers along with an emerging one makes more sense.
The empire that is the us is on the decline, it’s a country of conflict and division, so much hatred between opposing powers.. In no way that leads to prosperity. All great powers come to ask end and history proves as much. It may not be a collapse but it will in the next 20-30 years decline imo.
Britain *will* side with the EU against Russia.
“Downing Street insiders hope Mr Trump will overlook fierce criticism of him in the past by many Labour Cabinet ministers, including David Lammy, the Foreign Secretary, who previously called him a “tyrant” and a “sociopath”.”
Evidently, they don’t know him very well.
200% tariff, that will show us Brits!
As a American I plead with our allies to not cow toe to the fucker.
I always nut punch my waiter before ordering my soup.
Good! Fuck Republicans traitors who wish to alienate and bully our most important allies in the world.
Phew, they’re on our side. With that said we have interesting and serious times ahead as Europe sits squeezed between two superpowers that have insane people at the helm.
Why would it?
The US may be an economic and geopolitical superpower. But it is also schizophrenic and unreliable.
Countries cannot count on stable enduring relationships with the US anymore.
Do you know how insane this headline would be to someone from 2014??