I’m willing to bet Ukraine can just build them on their own. It seems this would be the only deterrent russia would understand.
Capital-Albatross-17 on
This is obvious. All the Nuclear superpowers don’t want other countries to have,create or acquire nuclear weapons.
NominalThought on
They are so afraid that Russia wil then send nukes to Iran?
WildRoof114 on
under a 1994 agreement, the Budapest Memorandum, in return for security assurances from Russia…
What assurance did Russia agree to?
BombayBlood23 on
Welp. There go the aliens.
Moutera on
Can you imagine? What a stupid news article.
>The United States is not considering returning to Ukraine the nuclear weapons it gave up after the Soviet Union collapsed.
No shit. “So these are the nukes we took from you. We have been keeping them around. You know, the ones with the pointed nose. They are all the same. Take them and have a nice day.”
stillnotking on
“US not completely insane, film at 11”
… Actually, that kind of *is* news. Never mind.
aaronhayes26 on
Wtf is this “return” nonsense? The US does not and has never possessed Ukraine’s ex-soviet nukes.
*Obviously* the US is not considering manufacturing or otherwise providing its own nuclear weapons for Ukraine.
Kuro2712 on
Good choice, the world doesn’t need more nuclear-armed nations.
LostDreams44 on
Sad considering Russia end of the deal was void and meaning less like Russia itself
Rassl3r on
Metal gear…
fiftyshadesofbeige69 on
How are the US going to return nukes that they don’t have?
CorrectTarget8957 on
Return?
Aware_Style1181 on
It would be suicidally reckless to consider giving Ukraine nukes.
coupl4nd on
RETURN!?!
Huh….
Interwebnaut on
There’s some interesting information in this article:
Why Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons and what that means in a Russian invasion : NPR
FEBRUARY 21, 2022
Excerpt:
“…Sergey Lavrov, who was in Paris at the time, simply did not show up. So he wouldn’t even come to the meeting in connection with the memorandum.
[Russia argues that it] signed it with a different government, not with this “illegitimate” one. But that, of course, does not stand to any international legal kind of criteria. You don’t sign agreements with the government, you sign it with the country.”… https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion
There is only one thing that is going to sort all the shit out around the world. Time.
Sin_Sun_Shine on
The Nukes are already there. We’re supposed to act like they aren’t though. Move along peasants. Nothing to see here.
abellapa on
US never had Ukraine nuclear weapons
You cant Return something you never had
drood420 on
Umm, Russia took those…..as part of the deal to never invade……..
Effective_Scale_4915 on
Ukraine has the capability/resources to build a nuclear bomb on their own and relatively quickly. I believe they will do just that if NATO membership/security is taken off the table. They already have an iskander style ballistic missile in development and could fit a nuclear warhead too that could reach Moscow. I wouldn’t be surprised if they already started it.
_grey_wall on
Is Canada gonna build them a nuclear reactor like they did for India tho?
Ventriloquist_Voice on
Ukrainian here. It was 3rd by size arsenal in the world, most of warheads were handed over to Russia. Those which were in maintenance phase were sold to USA, such compensation gesture, to use as a fuel. Solid ballistic missiles were repurposed to lunch satellites so called “Sea Start” program with civil name of rocket “Dnipro”. Strategic aviation cut to scrap, medium and short range cut to scrap. Silos – poured with concrete. Majority of stuff handed to Russia. Everything started with Russia gaslighting that Ukraine went rogue, out of Russian control, and Nazies came to power (sounds familiar?) Outcome – defenceless, disarmed country with signed toilet paper on hands, before Crimea Crisis 1996 with Russian appetite, Russia got weapons, Ukraine on plate like “Chiken Kyiv” and didn’t spend any coin, everything done for expense of not very smart West Russian “partner”
long5210 on
look up the Trilateral Process. it’s the agreement of all three nations during ussr break up
soilhalo_27 on
Just give them back their nukes! Stop being a bully US!
/S
I know how Reddit is.
I-Am_The_Intruder333 on
*wink*
ContributionHeavy636 on
the moment us nukes enter ukraine, we are all fucked.
SkywalkerTC on
Ukraine made the mistake of giving everything to Russia early on. The world just needs to truly learn from this. Deterrence I currently the only real way to peace, sadly, especially when faced with regimes like russia and China.
Also, what’s with this redundant report… Why even make a comment about this? Is this trying to send a message to russia “the US will not do more”? It’s like the US saying “we will not send US troops to fight in Ukraine directly” back in 2022. Just redundant, And dangerous.
Sanatani-Hindu on
You cannot return something you never borrowed.
Karlander19 on
It’s Russia that will not be returning any nuclear weapons to Ukraine.
firearrow5235 on
France, I humbly request your services yet again. Surely you can do for Ukraine what you did for Israel.
Johnhaven on
Oh yeah, Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was a fabulous example of why Ukraine should have told Bill Clinton to fuck off.
BridgetBardOh on
Eliminate the middleman and just launch 1000 warheads at Moscow
Problem solved
You’re welcome
leauchamps on
So, then they will probably build their own!
After all, this invasion would not have happened if the US hadn’t put their oar in when Ukraine did have nukes
RemoteSprinkles2893 on
Real question tho wouldn’t giving Ukraine a nuke or a wmd be good for deterring any more hostility
NoLength7406 on
We should give them one and take their wheat harvest in exchange
stansfield123 on
Someone should start a fundraiser … let’s buy Ukraine a nuclear weapons’ program. That’s actually not without precedent, it’s how Israel got about half its funding for their nukes.
It wasn’t that expensive, either, it cost about $80 million in 1960s dollars. That would be ~900 million in 2024 dollars.
fumphdik on
And anyone thought thought this was possible is dumb. We would never put the world in a Cuban missile crisis.
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I’m willing to bet Ukraine can just build them on their own. It seems this would be the only deterrent russia would understand.
This is obvious. All the Nuclear superpowers don’t want other countries to have,create or acquire nuclear weapons.
They are so afraid that Russia wil then send nukes to Iran?
under a 1994 agreement, the Budapest Memorandum, in return for security assurances from Russia…
What assurance did Russia agree to?
Welp. There go the aliens.
Can you imagine? What a stupid news article.
>The United States is not considering returning to Ukraine the nuclear weapons it gave up after the Soviet Union collapsed.
No shit. “So these are the nukes we took from you. We have been keeping them around. You know, the ones with the pointed nose. They are all the same. Take them and have a nice day.”
“US not completely insane, film at 11”
… Actually, that kind of *is* news. Never mind.
Wtf is this “return” nonsense? The US does not and has never possessed Ukraine’s ex-soviet nukes.
*Obviously* the US is not considering manufacturing or otherwise providing its own nuclear weapons for Ukraine.
Good choice, the world doesn’t need more nuclear-armed nations.
Sad considering Russia end of the deal was void and meaning less like Russia itself
Metal gear…
How are the US going to return nukes that they don’t have?
Return?
It would be suicidally reckless to consider giving Ukraine nukes.
RETURN!?!
Huh….
There’s some interesting information in this article:
Why Ukraine gave up nuclear weapons and what that means in a Russian invasion : NPR
FEBRUARY 21, 2022
Excerpt:
“…Sergey Lavrov, who was in Paris at the time, simply did not show up. So he wouldn’t even come to the meeting in connection with the memorandum.
[Russia argues that it] signed it with a different government, not with this “illegitimate” one. But that, of course, does not stand to any international legal kind of criteria. You don’t sign agreements with the government, you sign it with the country.”…
https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion
Text of the Budapest Memorandum:
https://policymemos.hks.harvard.edu/files/policymemos/files/2-23-22_ukraine-the_budapest_memo.pdf?m=1645824948
https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf
There is only one thing that is going to sort all the shit out around the world. Time.
The Nukes are already there. We’re supposed to act like they aren’t though. Move along peasants. Nothing to see here.
US never had Ukraine nuclear weapons
You cant Return something you never had
Umm, Russia took those…..as part of the deal to never invade……..
Ukraine has the capability/resources to build a nuclear bomb on their own and relatively quickly. I believe they will do just that if NATO membership/security is taken off the table. They already have an iskander style ballistic missile in development and could fit a nuclear warhead too that could reach Moscow. I wouldn’t be surprised if they already started it.
Is Canada gonna build them a nuclear reactor like they did for India tho?
Ukrainian here. It was 3rd by size arsenal in the world, most of warheads were handed over to Russia. Those which were in maintenance phase were sold to USA, such compensation gesture, to use as a fuel. Solid ballistic missiles were repurposed to lunch satellites so called “Sea Start” program with civil name of rocket “Dnipro”. Strategic aviation cut to scrap, medium and short range cut to scrap. Silos – poured with concrete. Majority of stuff handed to Russia. Everything started with Russia gaslighting that Ukraine went rogue, out of Russian control, and Nazies came to power (sounds familiar?) Outcome – defenceless, disarmed country with signed toilet paper on hands, before Crimea Crisis 1996 with Russian appetite, Russia got weapons, Ukraine on plate like “Chiken Kyiv” and didn’t spend any coin, everything done for expense of not very smart West Russian “partner”
look up the Trilateral Process. it’s the agreement of all three nations during ussr break up
Just give them back their nukes! Stop being a bully US!
/S
I know how Reddit is.
*wink*
the moment us nukes enter ukraine, we are all fucked.
Ukraine made the mistake of giving everything to Russia early on. The world just needs to truly learn from this. Deterrence I currently the only real way to peace, sadly, especially when faced with regimes like russia and China.
Also, what’s with this redundant report… Why even make a comment about this? Is this trying to send a message to russia “the US will not do more”? It’s like the US saying “we will not send US troops to fight in Ukraine directly” back in 2022. Just redundant, And dangerous.
You cannot return something you never borrowed.
It’s Russia that will not be returning any nuclear weapons to Ukraine.
France, I humbly request your services yet again. Surely you can do for Ukraine what you did for Israel.
Oh yeah, Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was a fabulous example of why Ukraine should have told Bill Clinton to fuck off.
Eliminate the middleman and just launch 1000 warheads at Moscow
Problem solved
You’re welcome
So, then they will probably build their own!
After all, this invasion would not have happened if the US hadn’t put their oar in when Ukraine did have nukes
Real question tho wouldn’t giving Ukraine a nuke or a wmd be good for deterring any more hostility
We should give them one and take their wheat harvest in exchange
Someone should start a fundraiser … let’s buy Ukraine a nuclear weapons’ program. That’s actually not without precedent, it’s how Israel got about half its funding for their nukes.
It wasn’t that expensive, either, it cost about $80 million in 1960s dollars. That would be ~900 million in 2024 dollars.
And anyone thought thought this was possible is dumb. We would never put the world in a Cuban missile crisis.