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33 Comments
Should you pay more tax for the NHS if you have a big arse?
Do we really have to regulate absolutely everything in this country?
Pay for the amount of spaces you occupy – if you overlap into the next box, 2x the fee and so on.
This actually used to be applied in multi-storey carparks in the town I grew up (I had a summer job sweep up all the discarded pay and display tickets) – if your wheels overlapped into the next parking bay, you got a ticket for the extra space.
Yes, this American consumeristic imperialism needs to end. I hate materialism and i hate American dogma even more.
For on street parking width is a problem, if a car is parked either side of the street, and they’re both 15cm wider than 20 years ago it makes the road effectively 30cm narrower for driving.
But charging more doesn’t help there, you can either enforce a maximum width from kerb, or ban parking.
10 years ago, everyone was moaning about people using big cars, but at the moment with our road conditions, you need them because of the bloody potholes everywhere.
Providing bigger spaces and charging more for them doesn’t seem unreasonable, but if the spaces are all the same size and the car fits, then the price should be the same.
Arguments about weight are largely moot when it comes to car park speeds and some smaller EVs now weigh more than a larger SUV.
There are often commercial vehicles in car parks that don’t fit a standard space, they could be charged either for a larger space or if they take up multiple bays they could be charged per bay.
If it’s actually done on floor space then yes, if some measure for the SUV haters that assume because it is taller but not actually wider or longer than a 5 series Wagon, then no.
Just because you can’t see over it doesn’t mean it’s actually taking up space that affects you.
It’s started appearing and you can pay at the Trafford centre for a large space is the latest controversy
Yeah.
Now we need to pay to make every parking space bigger, so a larger car is guaranteed a big space every time (seeing as how they’re paying for it, they have to get what they pay for, right?).
Let’s see if the maths work out cost and time Vs benefit and lost parking spaces.
People love to piss and moan about bigger cars.
Almost every car is now bigger than they were 10, 20 or 30 years ago.
Parking spaces are the same size as they were 30 years ago.
Having a smaller car doesn’t mean someone car park perfectly either.
I was hit in my vauxhall Corsa WHILE PARKED by an old woman in a Micra who couldn’t park her car correctly in the bay next to me.
If the car can’t fit in the bay, then yes. If the car can fit in the bay, then no
Honestly with the predatory practices of some carparks in big cities I’m surprised this isn’t already a thing
Yes, absolutely. More charges on those in a home who’ve got second cars – especially these big 4 x 4s
So if you drive “Smart car” or some “Renault Clio”you pay less ???
Yes because majority of the time they take up 1 and a half spaces and are driven by people without a care in the world about others.
You catch more flies with honey.. offer a discount for vehicles below a certain size, as in Japan
If you decide to buy a stupid sized car that takes up 2 parking spots, then you should pay for the extra spot you take up. Seems pretty common sense.
Just tax cars by weight and be done with it. It’ll encourage people into smaller cars and weight is the thing that damages roads the most. If its adopted at scale, it’ll force manufactures to build lighter vehicles.
EVs don’t have to be heavy but its often lazy engineering that gets us there; a Tesla Model 3 weights very little more than equivalent BMW 3 series and the lightest mass production BMW we’ve seen for probably 20 years was an EV.
Get people back in MPVs rather than huge SUVs.
No, you shouldn’t.
Every time new regulations like this come in, both manufacturers and consumers will look for ways to get around it. That’s something that we can actually use to our advantage.
The far better response is to redraw all of the parking spaces to fit something similar to the large vehicle pictured in the article and increase all rates accordingly to cover the loss of revenue. Then, as long as the number of tickets purchased meets the number of spaces occupied, parking wardens can ignore any differences in the actual number of vehicles.
Those that drive vehicles like this will be assured they are paying the same as everyone else. Those that drive something smaller but prefer a bit more space around their vehicle will have greater piece of mind. If a group of people who all drive smaller cars can fit, say for a group lunch or to attend the same event and can fit, say three vehicles in two spaces, all good. The same could also apply to a group of bikers who might get four or five vehicles in the space occupied by the vehicle pictured. It would then be down to the relevant parking operator to simply check that tickets displayed is equal to the number of parking spaces occupied or offer a mechanism to customers to declare all of the vehicles using a space, or group of spaces.
Make spaces wider and don’t charge more. It’s already hard enough to get in and out of a normal sized vehicle when they’re lined up next to each other in most car parks.
Parking is unreasonably expensive in every big city and it’s starting to bleed in to small towns too. People having big private cars is annoying, sure, but affordable parking where you actually might want to park is getting over shadowed by this kind of argument.
But yeah. If your stupid huge car takes up 2 spaces in a car park then you should pay for 2 spaces in the car park.
taking up more than one space? then yes. Same with fat people on airplanes
PSA: while SUVs are tall, they often don’t take up a larger footprint than a similar age saloon/hatchback car (indeed, they might well be built on the same chassis).
Modern cars are larger in general than older ones due to modern safety regulations.
Not for parking but yes for road use. Heavy ass cars damage roads and Councils are too poor to be able to fix them adequately due to the lack of Government funding + their funding being stretched in too many different higher priority areas.
This country is making it increasingly more difficult to enjoy being a car enthusiast.
Yes, we should also offer tax incentives VAt reduction and free parking like japan on “kei” class vehicles. [Kei car – Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car)
It’s always about paying more and more. Why can’t it be that people with small cars get to pay less?
ISH. We are having this debate in Cardiff at the moment. The issue is that many people with young families, or who have access needs need larger vehicles. Not insane huge ones – but your estates etc. (Though most manufacturers now sell SUVs instead of MPVs and estates). You need to be able to fit modern, safer car seats in if you have primary school aged children. Sensible – but it takes up room. If you have an adapted vehicle because of a disability, these are also usually larger. For many people a three-door hatchback is not a practical option. I really would like to see proper equality impact assessments on these ideas. As those who have loads of money, will still buy what they want, but those who have limited options for safe vehicles may also face increased costs.
There is a parking garage in Norwich’s city center and there I watched a large Dodge pickup getting stuck in the circular ramp… sometimes the drivers get their own punishment for stupidly large cars.
Yes. If it deters people from buying these suburban tanks, then yes. We don’t have the need nor space for massive SUVs and 4x4s. This isn’t the US where the roads are wide and car parks are absolutely massive.
It only works if done in conjunction with making access to towns and cities easier. Park and ride etc. arbitrarily raising prices on likely families is giving to do little to encourage people to use town centres.
That’s like saying should you pay more for parking if you have a micro penis.
Obviously, the answer is no. You can’t penilise someone for having a small willy.
Have a separate category of driving licence for large and high performance cars. To drive one, you must take your test in one, and perhaps have higher medical standards. A second driving test or a smaller car, most would choose a smaller car.