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14 Comments
This in of itself doesn’t actually solve anything, China (the communist one) still has access to this technology and Trump won’t allow Taiwan to broker America’s economic, military and (through AI) cultural strength. The strategic ambiguity Nixon setup is about to go down in flames, either Taiwan surrenders this tech to the US exclusively and works for us or Trump will -using the CHIPS Act and future legislation- build it here using government fabs if needed.
The US can’t be reliant on a tiny island nation for all of our high-end technology for the same reasons we can’t import all of our energy from Saudi Arabia. This entire charade can only end in failure.
From the article:
“Just weeks after a Taiwanese minister said it was illegal for TSMC to transfer its leading-edge process technology—such as N2 (2nm-class)—from Taiwan to its overseas fabs, another minister said that after N2 enters mass production in the second half of 2025, discussions about transferring the node to friendly democratic nations **can** take place, reports Economic Daily (as noticed by Dan Nystedt). Yet, TSMC only plans to start making 2nm-class chips in America by the decade’s end.”
Perhaps **can** means sorta kinda maybe? Meanwhile, I’ll believe it **when** it happens.
I feel like if TSMC just took the stance of “we want to figure out 2nm to the best of our ability prior to producing 2nm overseas” it would have been less of an uproar. Sustaining two bleeding edge technology/production development locations is a lot of cost and strains resources to multiple locations.
The fact the Taiwanese government regulated it though brought a lot of attention to the discrepancy between the American facility and Taiwanese
Let’s see is the US still counts as a “Friendly” “Democracy” by then
2 nanometers. Doesn’t seem like a lot /s
Am I missing something, or does nothing in the article say that the statement made was in response to Trump’s tariff threat? They states that when 2-nm comes online in Taiwan in 2025, they will then enter talks to bring it to other democratic nations by 2030. That is 5 years later, when TSMC presumably hopes to be on a still-better node, right?
This all just aligns with their current strategy, where process nodes are released for production in other nations once it is a generation or two old. This article is a nothingburger.
[LMAO that doesn’t take long at all](https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1gqb5ud/comment/lwxg4gt/)
I don’t understand what to think about this(?)
Why not to China? It’s closer and pays better lol. Also it doesn’t threaten others with tariffs and seems more respectful…at least listens to others.
It’ll be curious to see how it unfolds over the next few years.
Guess Taiwan ppl are not that smart other than manufacturers of semi conductor. If they maintain the manufacturing in Taiwan, US will be more likely to protect them from China
They still don’t have a packaging plant in the US so any chips they do fabricate in Arizona still need to be shipped back to Taiwan anyways don’t they?
The next gen AI chips might not be on 2nm
Stupid move on their part. A monopoly on the most advanced fabs is all that keeps them from being invaded.