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18 Comments
And for children above 16.
Why?
“Lovforslag” does not mean they have gone through with banning it though.
It translates to law-suggestion, it’s just the first step in bringing it up in Parliament to be discussed, evaluated, and eventually put into practice.
I do, however support the idea, I think SoMe is violently harmful, especially on young impressionable minds. As a teacher I’m disgusted by the notion that young kids base their beauty standards and social standards on internet millionaires and facetious influencers.
However, how would this be enforced, all of us as kids would get on Facebook and Twitter and made accounts on sites with age restrictions by just inputting a fake birthday, so how would it be different now?
if you can give me one properly controlled study that proves that social media is bad for children…you still shouldn’t ban it. you should educate.
Hint: there are no such studies.
While it sounds great in practice, it’s a slippery slope. The only feasible way to implement a method to verify that you are old enough to access the service, would be to identify yourself, say by using BankID or Vipps. That would in practice kill anonymity on the service.
It is not like the ban for children under 13 works today. We can’t ban everything we don’t like – it should be reserved for important things.
I don’t think its gonna stop them…the official limit is already 13 yet I encounter 8 year olds online all the time… some of whom have clearly never learned how to be safe online!
So yea upping it might seem like a good idea… but its almost impossible to enforce.
No.
[https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2024/09/texas-mandatory-age-verification-law-will-weaken-privacy-and-security-on-the-internet/](https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2024/09/texas-mandatory-age-verification-law-will-weaken-privacy-and-security-on-the-internet/)
[https://www.bitsoffreedom.nl/2024/11/01/strikte-leeftijdsverificatie-geen-oplossing-voor-sociale-media-paniek/](https://www.bitsoffreedom.nl/2024/11/01/strikte-leeftijdsverificatie-geen-oplossing-voor-sociale-media-paniek/)
Naah, we’re good.
Smartphones, I suggest disallowing smartphones instead of social media because it is easier to control and deny. Therefore harmful sociak media content creators lose contact wirh children and you teenagers who are easily influenced.
Harsh but tough love I say.
I don’t think it’s feasible.
It goes too far into tracking our online activity with BankID or Vipps, which are some of the few ways I could see something like this being implemented.
I am not willing to give up my freedom for security in this sense.
I think it’s the parents responsibility to figure out what their kids are doing online. Not all of it of course, but keeping certain boundaries is healthy.
Not going to work. Kids lie about age, and if you start asking for verification of age a different app which doesn’t will take over, as we humans love anonymity.
I very much agree about the education suggestion instead of needing to identify using your national ID to be able to use the internet.
I dont think people that think this is a good idea understand that this will seriously harm your anonymity on the internet.
You should not have to be a «bad guy» to feel that this is a bad direction we are moving into.
The digital ID will with great certainty be missused by the government to control the general population in a much bigger degree than the «bad guys»
This will not help the youth in any way. Their parents and the society around them should to the parenting. Not the government.
This will start as a «per-service» deal but soon by a «per-ISP» deal.
And i do not say that we are actually anonymous on the internet today, but this will remove all doubt.
“banning” isn’t always the solution. actually, it’s never a solution. it’s just hiding things.
good luck trying to enforce that
Absolutely not
I think it’s stupid. I remember not being allowed to have Facebook until 13. We all illegal made accounts, lied about our ages and used it. I really think proper communication with kids about this stuff. I remember being a teen and my parents talking to me about grooming, cyber bullying, pictures you don’t want etc. I’ll do the same with my daughter with having appropriate conversations instead of just changing the age of it all
Under 16 is a slippery slope
Where its at with 13-14 being the earliest is already good, kids need to know about the world around them sooner rather than later, its just a matter of the fact that the 13 year limit isn’t actually being enforced like it should and that social media sites don’t really care about kids being there.
The better and more controlled solution would be to simply not give kids devices to access social media in the first place. I grew up til 16 without my own smartphone just fine and i grew up in a healthier internet environment because of it.
Even better solution is to give kids their online spaces back, or their spaces back IRL. There should be media platforms catered specifically to be safe for kids (YT Kids is an example of what not to do, maybe they should be sued for child safety again)
One thing can be said about requiring IDs to function on the internet, Data leaks are about to get a lot more lucrative.