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    Vorgeschlagene Änderungen der ungarischen Grenzen vor dem Trianon-Vertrag 1920

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    1. 84purplerain on

      Hungarian claims are actually quite reasonable and reserved. i mean, they didn’t even demand Transylvania

    3. JourneyThiefer on

      Why was southern Slovakia not included in Hungary? The Danube and other natural borders or something?

    4. Rare_Opportunity2419 on

      This is what Orban likes to have a little bitch and a moan about

    5. Zandroe_ on

      I always found it funny how Hungarian nationalists complain about the Trianon treaty but they sabotaged the one opportunity to avoid it together with their best friends the Romanian state.

    6. bananablegh on

      Why on earth did the Americans want to give Hungary Carpathian Ruthenia?

      I don’t think any of these are great. Seton-Watson’s seems maybe the fairest?

    7. Thelastfirecircle on

      A lot of Hungarians living in neighboring countries, do they feel Hungarian?

    8. Hrdina_Imperia on

      It’s funny, once you consider, that most former proposals/demands before the war tended to include much less territories for self-administration. 

      All of this could’ve been avoided, has there been any semblence of willingness from Hungarians to not be a complete dicks to all other nationalities in the kingdom. 

    11. Modern_Magician on

      Trianon was a mistake there is no reason why Hungarians can’t live side by side with Slovaks in the same state.

      imo these carved ethnostates just created unhealthy nationalist societies that can’t remember the times of their multiethnic cities that had people of multiple ethnic groups side by side

      edit: I’m getting hate for what I said but I will double down on my stance on tolerance.

      There is no reason why Hungarians & Slovaks can’t live side by side peacefully under a single government.

      Trianon was the Hungarian failure to compromise with Slovaks leading to population exchanges of where peoples and families of both Slovak & Hungarian heritage lived for hundred of years only to be ripped out of their communities and forced to be move somewhere else.

      I think the only way forward now is economic regional integration such as Visegrad Group, of which these multiethnic cities can be revived. I hope to see a future where Hungarians have a greater presence in Bratislava and Slovaks have a greater presence in Budapest.

    12. Eraserguy on

      Hungarians are peak victim complex. Empired over a dozen ethnic groups for over a thousand years and then spent a few centuries in a personal union with austria and pretend they were oppressed

    13. PorkyValet1999 on

      oh cool, another incomprehensible map from this source. no one can read your blue / red/ black lines. use different line weights or hatching or something.

    14. thePerpetualClutz on

      People often miss the fact that something close to map #4 was the reality on ground before Trianon was finalized.

      Trianon may have confirmed Hungary’s losses, but it didn’t demand any land that Hungary actually held at the moment. The treaty technically gave Hungary some land back.

    19. ebrenjaro on

      In Central Europe it is impossible to draw fair borders. This green color shows just the areas where the Hungarian population is more than 50% but there are more minorities in other areas. But other areas Croatians, Romanians Slovaks Serbs etc were the majority and big areas, especially in the Carpathian mountains were inhabitants.

      So no matter how we draw the borders some people will suffer a grievance.

      Of course for us Hungarians, it was a tragedy but a great gain for others.

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