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    Änderungen an der Front im August-Oktober 2024


    Änderungen an der Front im August-Oktober 2024

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    Von Affectionate_Cat293

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    1. KungUnderBerget on

      We’re well into mud season, right? So the front line should remain like this until the ground freezes solid, yes?

    3. Internal_Sun_9632 on

      At this rate they’ll take the rest of Ukraine after the sun has run out of hydrogen…..

    4. optimizationphdstud on

      This map does not show front-line changes in the Kursk region inside RF.

    5. Sumeru88 on

      The Russians are gaining. If they take over entire Donbas, they will have achieved their revised war goal objectives and sit pretty for Ukraine’s war exhaustion to creep up until they surrender.

    6. DefInnit on

      This manpower issue — it should be all hands on deck, “total defense”, for Ukraine by now. It’s incredible that adult under-25 Ukrainians still get a pass from defending their homeland. It’d be a very tough decision to have to make but if their country falls, Putin would turn them into his zombie soldiers anyway.

    7. Carinwe_Lysa on

      This will never end will it?

      Ukraine isn’t going to back down and submit to Russian demands and cede land, and Russia is in no way going to stop the war and return back to their own borders.

      Neither side has the means to effectively storm the other with large, far reaching gains. So it’s either going to be a slow grind forever with the biggest changes being random fields or the odd ruined village, or until one side hits it’s breaking point and collapses in days.

    8. Judgedumdum on

      There haven’t been major frontline changes for over 1 year now. Both sides are tired of this war. Putin forces more men to die there every day while Ukraine is slowly bleeding out economically and militarily. Ukraine can’t really conscript more men because of worker shortages. They try to find a middle way between keeping the economy from collapsing and keeping the military supplied but at some point both will collapse. However Putin learned to accept that he won’t be able to occupy all of Ukraine so when Ukraine starts falling apart there will likely be a truce effectively giving Russia control over the land they are occupying at that point (more or less the de facto border right now).

      I hate to see how expansionism and nationalism are going to be rewarded. I hate to see Ukraine giving up territory. I hate to see the aggressor win a war. But sadly this is how it’s going to be. I can’t see a way for Ukraine to win this war.

      We need to learn from this. By this I mean:

      1. Create a European Army (~500k men) financed by 1% of each member country’s GDP (194B in total) in addition to the 2% for NATO

      2. Build anti-air and strategic, offensive missile launching facilities in the Baltics and Poland

      3. Have Georgia join EU and NATO asap

      4. Isolate Russia diplomatically (no talks, calls etc)

      5. Keep up the sanctions and place more in case of further aggression

    9. Arkfoo on

      Trading Land and time, the only Strategy Ukraine has with the lack of full funding and depleted army reserve. Sad to see, but for every 1km Russians might lose 1-5k Soldiers, can only hope Russia infighting starts.

    11. Meme_Dooku on

      Sorry, I know this is completely irrelevant, but how is it living in Jan Mayen? On topic, though. It’s extremely vital for Ukraine to maintain their position in Kursk in order to use it on the negotiating table. It makes simply freezing the conflict much harder, which otherwise would just mean Russian gains in the form of territory and population.

    13. joshistaken on

      Russia is so fucking useless. They’re making tiny, negligible advances while grinding up tens of thousands of their (and now north Korea’s 🤡) people.

    14. Northern_North2 on

      With a Trump victory as I predicted Russia is trying to gain as much bargaining power before the evitable peace deal. Given the land they already have and the new gains they’ll make leading to January it’s most likely Russia will gain full control over their eastern ambitions.

      Some folks may view that as a bad thing and well it is, however prolonging an uncertain conflict at the cost of human lives is also far worse, especially given how long the war has dragged on for.

      Folks will say that the gains are very minor and that the war can continue but those folks don’t take into consideration the war of attrition, just because the gains are minor doesn’t mean the causalities and damages are. Both sides are most likely pushed to their limits especially in terms of morale.

      People don’t understand that eventually one of them would break and it would most likely be Ukraine, maybe a year or 2 or 3 from now but at some point they would likely break. Wars don’t go on forever, as we saw in WW1, the war can continue under one of the powers that be collapses.

      It’s evitable, war can’t last forever.

    15. Antibacterial_Cat on

      So, Russia is expanding westward every second, meter by meter.

    16. Mannalug on

      110 years later people still die in thousands just to gain 1 km per month! I add a petition to take away sapiens from our species name.

    18. RimealotIV on

      Welcome back WWI trench warfare!

      Nah, thats been going on in eastern Ukraine since 2014.

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