Berkeley-Professor sagt, selbst seine „herausragenden“ Studenten mit einem Notendurchschnitt von 4,0 bekommen keine Stellenangebote – „Ich vermute, dass dieser Trend unumkehrbar ist“

Submission Statement

Every day we are getting closer to the day when AI & robots can do most work – even future, as yet uninvented work – but cost pennies an hour to employ. How soon is that day? Who knows, but I think sometime in the 2030s is a reasonable estimate.

So this logically leads to some questions for people in 2024. If a college education incurs costs that take years, or decades, to pay off. What is the point of doing it when that investment makes no economic sense?

Perhaps the answer for would-be students is to only invest in low-cost options. Community college or online courses. Many people think the worth of college is the professional networks it builds, but will these be of any use either, when the economic disruption of ultra-cheap AI/robot employees is truly upon us?

Your degree doesn’t get you a job.

Your network does.

Student with 4.0 won’t accept job for under 200k starting. Should be the headline.    

I can confirm. I’m unemployed with a 3.94 GPA, Bachelor of Science in Information Technology.

Finished school last (Spring) semester.

I think this is less about AI and more about the job market for entry-level programmers.

In an era when job hopping every 6-12 months is seen as the best way to advance your career, companies are unwilling to invest in entry-level positions because they know they are going to leave in a short time anyway.

For programmers, where the difference between a fresh out of college worker and someone with a few years of experience is huge, it makes sense that companies are trying to skip hiring new graduates and target those with experience.

Multi-year hiring contracts for new grads may be one way to fix this, but it’s not one most new graduates want because that will stifle their chances of advancement by moving to another company.

I vacillate between thinking AI is overrated and it not being perceived as the true threat that it is. Friend of mine did document review and markup for a big government contractor (Maximus).

She was laid off along with several hundred people doing similar work. Their job was automated away. On the one hand that company is now hiring a ton of IT jobs. However, I wonder how long it will be before mid and high skill jobs become automated as well.

I think mid-skill blue collar jobs, like plumbing will be more resilient. Though if you told me that these jobs would be automated by 2050, I’d believe you.

Anyone who thinks a trend is irreversible hasn’t been paying attention. Vinyl records made a comeback so no trend is truly irreversible

The military is alays looking to recruit officers. The Navy and Marines have a huge presence in California, I bet those students didn’t even apply there. They’re missing out in a pretty nice job.

the job market right now is absolutely brutal especially for new grads in tech. I don’t know what the solution is but I’ve yet to hear anyone in authority really talk about the problem in a meaningful way, let alone propose any sort of real way to fix it. Too many people applying to too few jobs many of which are just fake or already have a candidate in mind before they were even listed. this is an unforseen consequence of merging the entire job market into one giant remote market.

Maybe. its that Berkley has developed a very bad reputation?

I’m in the construction management industry, and I find the kids with the most impressive grades are the least socially adept. We need people who have phone skills and are not afraid to verbally interact with field personnel.

It’s wild how many young people avoid making phone calls at all cost. Luckily you can identify them in the interview pretty quickly. Some of our interviews are disasters. No eye contact, no talking unless they are asked a question, and no follow up.

Work experience is what we need. Not indoctrinated kids who know it all but can’t make a simple critical decision.

WTF is this nonsense? Who can’t get hired with a Computer Science degree? I can’t get recruiters to leave me alone.

There are multiple problems at the same time.

1. Degree Mills and Coding Bootcamps created a TON of applicants who are happy to take entry level jobs.

2. Hiring managers get 1000s of applications that are hard to review.

3. Lots of people “Who work in tech” don’t actually have technical skills, so when they say the “tech market is bad” they are talking about something else like HR or Recruiting or Scum Mastering.

4. New grads are risky because you don’t know if they got good grades from grade inflation or from using AI to pass their tests and you don’t know if they are going to start an Anti-Israel chant in the next zoom meeting and refuse to work until your company refuses to work with Israel.

LLM has drastically increased the difficulty of getting entry-level jobs in tech. Before LLM, companies were willing to invest in new graduates because at least, there are some values that can be gained from the new grads. For example, you can request them to write documentation on the product, data entry, resolve easy tickets, etc… Before the new grad gains enough experience to meaningfully contribute, the company is always losing money. Then, they’d have to take a gamble whether the new grad would stay at company after 2-3 years.

Now, companies are only hiring senior level employees and let LLM / automation do the entry-level tasks. This trend will only get worse as AI gets more advanced and begin to replace more experienced employees.

Honestly, we need entirely new industries.

We need investment at the federal level.

We need bold strategies to address climate change, to take advantage of the new opportunities with space, mining and tourism.

The United States is making a lot of decisions that are not going to make us more competitive.

When industries don’t have faith in the infrastructure, they’re not going to take chances.

Maybe the business world is tired of snowflake woke tiddy babies that expect everything handed to them on a silver platter , and who makes any want a human right