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Trump has a fairly weak popular vote margin by modern standards. But every president claims to have a huge mandate.
Trump will have the smallest margin in the House of any incoming president in the last 80+ years.
Donald J. Trump barely winning with a misinformed majority is not a mandate; it’s like giving a monkey a nail gun.
Good luck!
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Don’t get me wrong—I still have my popcorn and a helmet.
The only mandate he won is the perpetual one he’s currently on with leon.
Only 25% of voting aged people in the US voted for Trump. He doesn’t have any fucking mandate and he’s about to have the most unpopular term in history, this will be even more unpopular than his historically unpopular first term. The next two elections will be blue waves, regardless of anything the Democrats do.
If you go by pop vote, his mandate is a little less than Hillary Clinton’s mandate in 2016, she won by 2%, Trump won by a little less than 2%. But don’t worry, dems have spent years setting the stage to help him have absolute authority to do whatever the fuck he wants.
What does history say? The fact that trumps thinks he has a mandate to change America and he has the house and the senate is terrifying enough.
He won a plurality of the vote. He didn’t win 50% of the vote. Anyone saying he won in a landslide is a lying idiot.
It’s a weak mandate and still shows our country is as divided as ever.
Based on what I’ve been reading from Reddit comments, Trump is going to fulfill every campaign promise he made. And if that were the case, would that not make him the greatest politician of all time? I mean think about it, how often do politicians promise something and never follow through? All the time! I bet no politician has ever come through on more than half of their promises and here we have Trump who everyone on here thinks is going to be 100%.
If you couldn’t already tell, I’m being sarcastic.
People love these “big” comparisons to Nazis and acting like this was the most important election ever just like the last three…but the truth is if history is an guide no. What we’re seeing is most like that boring period of political stalemate between Grant & McKinnley. You know, the last time we had a nonconsecutive presidency. And that’s on top of just about every 2-term president being much less impactful in their second.
That era was one of very charged rhetoric about issues over most people’s heads too. It was one that was very bitter, with a lot of fear on the losing side when theirs lost the narrow lead in power. It was one of big promises where little got done. We’ve been here before, the wheels fall off the second this conglomeration of petty grievances actually has to govern. Will he inflict some pain? Yes. Is there any chance we’ll see P25 fully enacted before this charlatan’s government collapses into nonsense like last time? No.
You got two years til midterms. That’s enough time for another billionaire tax cut, some flexing deportations or other goals…but you’re gonna get eaten up with stupid Musk drama by this time next year.
I expected this type of language. This was not some historical political realignment. Democrats were dealt a bad hand, but they also played it abysmally.
Voter turnout stayed relatively consistent for Trump this election compared to last, the same cannot be said for Democrats. The why is something that the party will need to deeply reflect on.
Walter Lippman, one of America’s most influential journalists, who had the ear of presidents, called the general public an “irrational force” almost a century ago. This message rings true today more than ever. He argued that Americans don’t make politically informed decisions, and that’s what happened this election, Americans let their *feelings* decide the outcome. The onus was on Democrats, not Republicans, to help Americans make those politically informed decisions, however unfair that may seem.
So Democrats have to take some of the blame.
But first, Biden was supposed to be a transitional candidate. His decision to run for re-election put democrats in a very tough spot. He was also tasked with overseeing an economic recovery and his admin was blamed for the fallout that followed the pandemic.
In fact, an economic crisis emerged at the end of the last two Republican administrations, and both times a Democrat stepped into office and was forced to oversee an economic recovery and handle the subsequent fallout. Republicans exploited that fallout for political gain, choosing to divide Americans during a time of crisis.
It was particularly effective this time because, unfortunately, many Americans care more about their immediate circumstances than they do any “threat to democracy.”
What’s more, American voters tend to have short memories and a large swath of low propensity voters are who decide our elections. Many of them don’t tune in until they’re being inundated with political messaging months leading up to an election. And that messaging is excessively sensational, propagandistic, misleading, deceptive, partisan, heavily distorted etc.
And this is, in large part, because, as studies consistently show, misinformation, unsubstantiated rumors, propaganda and lies travel farther and faster, reaching wider audiences. The truth receives far less engagement
I’ll be willing to concede that this type of messaging comes from both parties, but it’s Republicans who disproportionately benefit from it.
Combine this with the fact that incumbent leaders around the globe were facing political challenges due to world wide economic tensions, and it becomes obvious that this was always going to be an uphill battle.
Add Kamala Harris being shoehorned in at the last minute, and you’ve got yourself a recipe for an election loss
What’s really frustrating is that Donald Trump is going to be inheriting a growing economy for the second time. One he’ll surely take credit for *again*. The only consolation is that Joe Biden’s presidency will act as a sort of stop gap effort, sandwiched in between two Trump presidencies. Two consecutive Trump terms would have been more damaging, the next four years aside.
Trump’s loss to Biden in 2020 was of necessity. The beginning of a return back to normalcy, and it could very well set up obstacles for Republicans that would not have been put in place otherwise
Yes, Democrats would have had a much better shot had Biden refused to run for a second term, but what was done was done. And after Biden stepped down, Democrats played their hand terribly.
While they failed to take into account how Americans care more about their immediate circumstances, how they have short memories and show disinterest or lack of concern for nuance, they also failed to articulate a message that should have emphasized, above all else, Trump’s poor economic and foreign policy record.
Inflation and economic issues were the key drivers this election, and while many Americans tend to think in black and white terms, e.g. “when inflation/economy bad, it must be the fault of whoever is in power,” it still would have benefitted Democrats if they prioritized, above all else, the message that Trump was *not* better for the economy, and his economic policies for his next term are even more potentially disastrous for Americans.
Voters cared far more about this than they did about Trump as a threat to core Democratic values.
The national debt ballooned under Trump.
He instigated a trade war with China and his tariff policies did far more harm than good.
He pressured the Fed to keep interest rates low for political gain.
His admin took actions that made it more difficult for workers to unionize, and for unions to operate effectively.
He championed tax cut legislation that is estimated to cost the govt trillions (while Republicans bragged that it would pay for itself), and these tax cuts permanently and disproportionately benefited the rich and corporations.
Trump mishandled the pandemic at nearly every turn, and encouraged Republicans to politicize every aspect of COVID, once again, choosing to divide Americans during a time of crisis.
Trump and his Republican allies preserved a GOP agenda that has been hamstringing the labor movement, redistributing wealth to the top, safeguarding a broken tax code, promoting corporate profit-mongering and personhood, prioritizing rich/special interests, cultivating an economic culture of greed and profligacy, and widening the wealth gap, among other things, for *decades*
*All of these things contributed to inflationary trends and economic issues that extended into the Biden administration*
Trump’s foreign policy record was a disaster too. He weakened our alliances, escalated conflicts in multiple theaters, compromised our ability to act as peace brokers, withdrew from the working non-proliferation agreement with Iran, emboldened Putin’s autocratic agenda, aided his proxy wars and aligned himself with Putin’s goals, cozied up to dictators around the globe, dropped more drone strikes than Obama within his first two years alone, forced Congress to pass not one, but two historical war powers resolutions, abandoned our Kurdish allies, negotiated with terrorists and the list goes on and on.
On immigration, Democrats weren’t going to reach through to anyone cheering on mass deportations, but Trump tanking the bipartisan border deal should have been emphasized more along with how Republicans prefer to run on immigration as a wedge issue, rather than run on fixing it.
Most Americans don’t know these things. And, yeah, maybe they don’t care as long as they’re paying more for groceries and gas, while believing that whoever’s in charge is responsible for higher prices, but even if this is the case, you at least try to convince them otherwise.
In the end, there were a multitude of factors working against democrats, they also likely miscalculated how some voters just weren’t willing to vote for a woman considering the alternative was a perceived strongman, especially during a period where a movement and “crisis of masculinity” is on the rise.
Walter Lippman was right a century ago, and he’s still right today. The general public *is* an irrational force. He argued that voters don’t make politically informed decisions. Well, they’re especially not making politically informed decisions if you’re not *informing* them. So instead, they’re voting based on feelings, and that’s what won Trump this election, *feelings.*
When a party wins the presidency, senate and congress…..that’s a mandate.
If they claim to love the country so much, why are they so eager to change it?
The idea of “mandates” needs to die.
Yeah, that’s all great and all that he didn’t win by as big a margin as it first looked like, but does anyone really think that makes any difference to him?
He’s got a mandate to suck on my nuts
Whoever Democrats win both the electoral college, and popular vote Republicans are quick to point out that “x amount of Americans didn’t vote for them”. But when Republicans win they say bullshit like “the American people have spoken.”
Do not underestimate the cycle of mandate->overreach->backlash
Yeah but what is anyone gonna do about it
I doubt it’s gonna be that smooth of a term for anyone.
The gop says this everytime they win because of “how red the map looks”
So funny that somehow the narrative has changed to Trump completely rebuilding America to something better.
He never had a plan, but now a small group of ultra conservatives has convinced him his legacy will be sealed by marking these changes.
Don’t be fooled.
Trump never cared about anything but himself and still doesn’t.
He says he has a mandate because that’s part of the plan proposed by Curtis Yarvin. There’s a reason he keeps using that word. It’s not on accident.
Arguing over mandate is pretty pointless. To Trump the only question is what he can do, not what is legal or moral or popular. He is not going to care about mandate at all.
He only won the popular vote by 2.5 million votes. Hillary Clinton won by a larger margin than him. The republicans have got to stop acting like he won by a landslide, far from it as it was a close race.
You can’t lie your way into a mandate for your true intentions.
Future history will say he succeeded
I remember George W claiming that God told him that he’d end terrorism. People say lots of stuff. It’s on others to be smart enough to know when they’re lying…and that’s a big problem in this country
Do you know what you call a President without a mandate? Mr. President