Berichten zufolge ist Putin zu Waffenstillstandsgesprächen mit Trump bereit, fordert aber von der Ukraine, dass sie das NATO-Angebot aufgibt und Land aufgibt | Russlands Bedingungen für einen Waffenstillstand mit Trump: keine NATO für die Ukraine, territoriale Zugeständnisse und Sicherheitsgarantien

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> Russian President Vladimir Putin claims he is open to discussing a Ukraine ceasefire with US President-elect Donald Trump but wants to keep Ukrainian land and demands Kyiv abandon its NATO ambitions, five Kremlin insiders told Reuters.

> Trump, who has promised to swiftly end the war, takes office as Russia controls a Ukraine-sized territory comparable to Virginia and advances at its fastest pace since 2022 – although it comes at great cost to the Russian army.

> Russia currently occupies 18% of Ukraine, including all of Crimea, which it annexed in 2014, 80% of the Donbas (Donetsk and Luhansk regions), and over 70% of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions. It also controls nearly 3% of the Kharkiv region and a small portion of Mykolaiv. In total, Russia holds over 110,000 square kilometers of Ukrainian territory.

> Meanwhile, via a counter-invasion, Ukraine controls and has stubbornly held approximately 650 square kilometers of Russia’s Kursk region, where Russian forces have so far run into a near solid wall in their attempts to dislodge.

> Guy Faulconbridge, Reuters’ Moscow bureau chief, reports his sources – five current and former Russian officials – wrote that Putin might agree to halt his invasion, freezing the conflict along current front lines, with negotiation over dividing Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson.

> Russia may also consider withdrawing from smaller areas in Kharkiv and Mykolaiv. However, recent US approval for Ukraine’s use of ATACMS missiles on Russian territory could delay talks and harden Moscow’s demands, the insiders claimed to Reuters.
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> If no deal is struck, Moscow is prepared to continue fighting, the sources claimed.

> “Putin has already said that freezing the conflict will not work in any way,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told Reuters hours before the Russians reported the ATACMS strikes. “And the missile authorization is a very dangerous escalation on the part of the United States.”

> The US was in fact responding to Russia’s escalation.

> Washington authorized Kyiv to use these weapons in response to new Russian attacks on Ukrainian energy – 120 missiles and 90 drones on Sunday – as well as the arrival of North Korean troops in Russia.

> On June 14, Putin set out his opening terms for an immediate end to the war: Ukraine must drop its NATO ambitions and withdraw all its troops from the entirety of the territory of four Ukrainian regions claimed and mostly controlled by Russia.

> While Russia will not tolerate Ukraine joining the NATO defensive alliance, or the presence of NATO troops on Ukrainian soil – one of the few realistic options available to Ukraine to prevent future Russian invasion – it is open to discussing security guarantees for Kyiv, the Russian officials claimed to Reuters.

> Other Ukrainian concessions the Kremlin could push for include Kyiv agreeing to limit the size of its armed forces – making it even less able to handle another Russian invasion – and committing not to restrict the use of the Russian language, the Russian insiders claimed.

> Domestically, Putin could frame a ceasefire that secures most of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson as a victory, protecting Russian speakers and securing a land bridge to Crimea, a source told Reuters. All the Russian officials that Reuters spoke – who spoke under the assumption that Moscow would be able to define the terms of a peace deal – agreed that Russia being able to keep Ukraine’s Crimea, which it illegally annexed in 2014, is a non-negotiable.

> A senior Kremlin insider, making no mention of the tens of thousands of Russian soldiers who’ve lost their lives in Putin’s surprise invasion nor the failure of Russia to take all of Ukraine in a week, nor the toll that its invasion has taken on the Russian economy, told Reuters that the West must accept the “harsh truth” that its support for Ukraine cannot stop Russia from claiming victory.

> “He [Putin] will likewise have the deciding voice on any ceasefire, according to the five current and former officials,” the report reads.

> **What could a ceasefire look like?**

> When asked by Reuters about the framework of a possible ceasefire, two Russian sources referred to a draft agreement discussed in Istanbul in April 2022, which Putin has publicly cited as a potential basis for a “deal.”

> Under that draft, Ukraine would commit to permanent “neutrality” in exchange for non-specific “security guarantees” from the five permanent members of the UN Security Council: the US, Britain, China, France, and Russia.

> While Ukraine had sought NATO membership following Russia’s 2014 invasion, many would say its efforts to join the defensive alliance picked up pace after Russia’s 2022 full-scale invasion.

> There would be no agreement unless Ukraine received security guarantees, however, without specifically mentioning any future Russian invasion plans, one Russian official added: “The question is how to avoid a deal that locks the West into a possible direct confrontation with Russia one day.”

It is ONLY up to Ukraine what they will accept. And I am utterly positive that donny will kneecap Ukraine at the first opportunity. As an American, this election has fucked our country, and I am sorry if it has fucked Ukraine.

This is Trump’s plan to end the war in 24hrs.

The answer is no.

2014 year proved that there are only 2 possibilities for Ukraine and Ukrainians: or NATO’s WMD-protection, or own WMD-protection.

Absolutely any circumstances only bring closer or move away one of two choices. But in no way change them.

Budapest Memorandum, Crimea, Donbass, 2022-2024 years Russian war crimes AND 450 billion dollars which EU+NATO paid to Russia during 2022-2023 years showed that in modern World any agreements not reinforced by WMD-related risks it’s complete trash.

In case of Russian neighbors – even worse than trash. Straight road to constant trade of lives and territories on few years before next round of meat waves consisting of indoctrinated former citizens.

It’s one of the reason why not for Ukraine, but for Ukrainians, it increasingly more profitable so that Russia already used nukes. So that all Western “International Law without inevitability of punishment to WMD-aristocracy” theater would end. And all Ukrainians finally could start create protection which right now have almost everyone who surround Ukraine, fight against Ukrainians, and benefits from Ukrainian war. Protection which was taken from Ukraine, and prohibited for Ukraine because of, as now obvious to everyone, lies about alternatives.

There are no alternatives. They were wasted by fears of WW3 and few opportunistic bucks.

Security guarantees? Like the ones Ukraine got for giving up its nukes?

Wouldn’t be the first time Orangeface negotiated away a nation’s sovereignty without them at the table.

So… surrender?

“Putin open to making a deal after he gets “everything he wants

Fuck Russia

How about Trump and Putin go fuck themselves.

dafug when u invaded first…

Agree to this if putin gives up all nukes.

Sounds like he needs more long range missiles.

How about “No”?

* Cessation of all hostile activities by Russia.

* No Russian armed forces within 150 km of the Ukraine border.

* Russia returns all stolen invaded land, including the Crimean Peninsula.

* Russia repatriates all soldiers and civilians moved to Russian territory illegally.

* Russia makes $2 billion restitution to Ukraine.

And those are just the non-negotiable starting points.

Good thing Trump has a “never surrender” policy so he’ll tell Putin to take a hike. Kidding of course. Trump will kiss the ring and claim historic victory.

I don’t believe any future security agreement will be honored unless Ukraine receives NATO membership.

There’s nothing to stop a future Russian offensive from taking more Ukrainian land by force.

If a Russian victory is inevitable, the best option for Ukraine is to make it as lengthy and costly to achieve as possible.

Russia has shown that it will endlessly escalate like a child with a tantrum. They’ve broken their own demands that the “West leave this between Ukraine and Russia” when they deployed North Korean troops in the fight.

Conceding in any way to Russia’s unprovoked aggression starts a dangerous precedent – that all a nation has to do is threaten to be intolerably belligerent to avoid consequences.

Russia’s territorial aggression cannot be accepted. It must be rebuked.

Fuck Russia

So basically just ask what they want and give it. Why war if you can just demand it.

F Putin. F Russia. And f any country that gives in.

Security Guarantees include Trump obtaining Waterfront Property on the Black Sea and the USA dropping out of NATO

I think we should start with $1M compensation for every Ukrainian killed: man, woman or child.

Russia immediately leaves Donbas, Crimea and Kursk.

Russia pays to rebuild all destroyed infrastructure.

Russia gives up nukes and gets “assurance” that NATO will not invade Moscow.

Here, fixed it for you!

After Russia broke the Budapest Memorandum, NATO membership is a must.

Trump will take credit, say it’s his plan, and MAGA will rejoice.

Meanwhile Putin will do what he did after annexing Crimea: consolidate winnings and prepare for next round of invasions.

So, trump’s gonna give Putin everything he wants. Only for Russia to regroup in a few years and do this all over again? Thanks trump, dumb mother fucker.