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    Unterschätzen Sie die Rogansphere nicht. Sein riesiges Ökosystem ist Fox News für junge Leute


    Unterschätzen Sie die Rogansphere nicht. Sein riesiges Ökosystem ist Fox News für junge Leute

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/20/joe-rogan-theo-von-podcasts-donald-trump

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    1. Grouchy-Bowl-8700 on

      So how do we combat this / make our own version on the left?

      How do we reach out to GenZ and younger men?

    3. meat_sack on

      Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016. So the big question is how did he get from there to here in 2024? I remember him being criticized pretty heavily during the pandemic… so perhaps that’s where it started.

    4. ToeDisastrous3501 on

      Go look at the Spotify podcast top 10. Rogan is #1. Theo is #4. Redacted. Chains FR.

      The rest are conservative talk shows.

    5. Reviews-From-Me on

      The question is, why are young men so insecure that they feel the need to be “alpha males” instead of simply respecting others?

    7. cjwidd on

      Joe Rogan is the new Alex Jones – he knows it, he has wanted this for a long time.

    8. kon--- on

      Awesome. As older dopes begin dying off along comes the next generation of shitty voters who exhibit zero ability to connect simple dots.

      Bonus…friendly, cordial exchanges are out of the question as any and everything that looks as if they might have fucked this up results in causing them traumatic amounts of butthurt which, double-bonus, tends to send that person into downward spiral where every response is loud noises followed instantly by doubling down on stupid.

    9. lancer-fiefdom on

      Democrats have horrible male role models in Politics…. Name 1? I cannot think of any

      Politicians
      Chuck Schumer? Hell no
      Adam Schiff? Smart, to the point of geek
      John Fetterman? Maybe before, not now

      Celebrities
      John Stewart? Fuck yeah, for Gen x & y

      Sports
      None??

      And no, as much as I think Pete Buttigieg might be the most intelligent & gifted politician in the country…. He’ll never be a role model for meathead 20~30 something heterosexual males

    11. bismarque22 on

      You have to show young people that a better life and future are possible in the real world in ways they can actually experience. Otherwise, why not think about yourself only or want to watch the world burn. In fact, that is what we have been showing young people, especially that greed, selfishness, and violence are our most important values as a society.

    12. Char10 on

      I used to listen to JRE for the comedian guests. As I got older I began to notice the alpha male douche vibe and it quickly turned me off. Joe loves to say he’s an idiot and doesn’t know anything, but he knows exactly what kind of bullshit he’s putting in the minds of his listeners. There’s a whole generation of amateur MMA enthusiasts that also consume the conspiracy theories. Their fighting skills are as deficient as their critical thinking skills.

    13. timeforchorin on

      There you go. Win over all those young men who are clearly searching for something and feel ostracized, like outsiders by *checks notes…. comparing them to the circus network you’ve been demonizing for decades. Brilliant move. Should garner so much more interest for the next Democratic candidate. Just fuckin *whoosh man.

    14. rustylucy77 on

      I used to watch rogan probably 8 or 9 yrs ago. He would have on his friend Eddie Bravo, and I remember that Eddie seemed to believe in literally every conspiracy theory he would come across. At that time, Joe seemed way more level headed and was usually the more rational voice on his show.

      Oh my, how the turns have tabled

    15. cubanesis on

      When I was younger, and it was the early days of Rogan Podcast, I thought he was a good role model for people. He seemed to be very grounded and encouraged people to pursue hobbies like archery, raising chickens, and a good exercise habit. I was also a fan of his standup. Unfortunately, I think the combination of becoming super rich from the Spotify deal and COVID broke him.

      I kept trying to listen to his show, but it just got more out of touch. Suddenly, it wasn’t “Drink a Kale shake and do some deep squats. ” It was “Fly to Peru, get some stemcells, and everyone should have their own float tank, sauna, and sub-zero cold therapy machines.”

      His views went further and further towards the elites and the GOP. I’ve maybe listened to 5 episodes of his show in the last 4 years. I unfollowed his show after the Trump interview. That was the nail in the coffin for me. I can’t support anyone who supports Trump in any way. I know my unsub doesn’t really affect him, but it’s what I can do, so I did it.

    16. Either-Hovercraft-51 on

      Read through the comments and this is my takeaway:

      A FIRST time conservative voter (who STILL would have voted for Bernie over Trump) is now considered an evil alt-right shill.

      I hope that is a clue to helping with the problem.

    17. DreamingAboutSpace on

      Underestimating people is a massive part of the problem. Not enough people willing to be safe than sorry, but too many saying “Oh they would never do that”.

    19. theskinswin on

      The question we must ask ourselves….. Is why? Joe rogan’s movement to the right was a very very slow process. It happened over the series of years. So the question begs itself why what caused it? It definitely started and or was accelerated by the vaccine shenanigans. But that still doesn’t explain how we got to the point where he endorses Donald Trump. That didn’t happen overnight

    20. taco_studies_major on

      I like what the article points out, these bro podcasts blur the line the between liberal and conservative culture, but ultimately they make extreme figures like Trump appear more acceptable.

    21. Crafty_Principle_677 on

      Maybe young people should be responsible for not spending all day listening to braindead morons 

      Get off YouTube and go outside you burnout assholes 

    22. IHazSnek on

      Trump absolutely loves the guy. He _embraced_ him at that UFC event.

      You ever seen Trump hug someone before??

    23. Prfct_Blu_Buildngs on

      He’s a rich dude that has been rich for too long. He’s lost all of his appeal. I wonder if he lost a lot of viewers after this election. Certainly did me

    24. MrStuff1Consultant on

      You misspelled “dumb people.” No worries, probably just that annoying autocorrect.

    25. Charles_Mendel on

      Deleted my Spotify of over 10 years bc of that trash. Podcasts are the new AM radio. Fuck that shit.

    26. Mervinly on

      Every guy my age who still worships Joe Rogan is a frat boy douche without a brain

    27. yellowpanda3 on

      Joe Rogan was left, even endorsing Bernie, it’s the left that has gone off their rockers and pushed so many popular voices to the right. Have any of you ever listened to Rogan?

    28. 01is on

      I was dismayed when I found out Harris wasn’t going to go on Rogan after Trump did. It was a no-brainer. She could have penetrated the filter bubble for tens of millions of intellectually malleable people, most of whom probably weren’t already planning to vote for her. And knowing Rogan, he probably would have been fair to her, or at least not actively hostile like Bret Baier was on Fox.

      The idea that she would pass up an opportunity like that in order to attend more rallies of a few thousand already locked-in supporters seems like utter madness. Would going on Rogan have changed the outcome of the election? Not single-handedly, judging by the margins she lost by. But, to me, the decision not to do it speaks to a campaign consultancy that is mind-bogglingly out-of-touch and insulated.

    29. viethoc2000 on

      Rogan is definitely not Fox. Rogan is Bernie bro. I think Rogan is a good person with a lot of love for all colors.

    30. Darkstar197 on

      Harris really should have gone on Rogan. A long form podcast would allow voters to actually get to know her as a human being.

    31. heyitssal on

      What do we call the systsem that is outwardly for Democrats? Including CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NYT, WaPo, NPR, etc.

      Do we have a name for that?

    32. doesitevermatter- on

      What an odd article.

      Do we need to have it explained that one of the most popular podcasts in existence is.. popular?..

      That a right wing podcast is… Right wing?

      What year is it that someone is explaining this show like it’s new?

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