Biden genehmigt Antipersonenminen für die Ukraine und macht damit seine eigene Politik zunichte

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  1. washingtonpost on

    President Joe Biden has authorized the provision of antipersonnel land mines to Ukraine, two U.S. officials said, a step that will bolster Kyiv’s defenses against advancing Russian troops but has drawn criticism from arms control groups.

    The move comes in the wake of the White House’s [recent authorization](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/17/ukraine-russia-north-korea-atacms/?itid=lk_inline_manual_4) allowing Ukraine to use a powerful long-range missile system to strike inside Russia — part of a sweep of urgent actions the lame-duck Biden administration is taking to help Kyiv’s faltering war effort**.**

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that Moscow will retaliate for [the latest missile strikes](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/11/19/ukraine-russia-atacms-bryansk/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5) from the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS. Shipping antipersonnel land mines to Ukraine is also potentially controversial, though among a different group: More than 160 countries have signed an international treaty banning their use, noting that the indiscriminate weapons can cause enduring harm to civilians. But Kyiv [has sought them](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/04/12/ukraine-russia-land-mines/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5) since Russia invaded nearly three years ago, and the Kremlin’s forces have deployed antipersonnel land mines liberally on the front lines, impeding Ukraine’s progress as it seeks to reclaim its own territory.

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  2. BeltfedOne on

    I have seen videos of RU drones dropping petal mines over UA positions. If UA wants AP mines- send them, it is their country and they already know that demining is going to be extensive.

  3. All_Work_All_Play on

    Nice to see the gloves come off. We’ve pulled punches for far too long.

  4. CleverCalculus4 on

    Complex decisions in wartime often challenge previous policies and principles

  5. Long after conflicts end the mines stay buried ready to kill and maim innocent citizens mostly children.  

  6. SunKissedBreeze on

    Tough decision, but Ukraine’s situation is dire. Sometimes, policies evolve with the circumstances.

  7. poestavern on

    I’m Infantry and hate mines. But Go Ukraine mine the hell out of Putin’s army.

  8. unWildBill on

    He is learning how to make blow darts in the Amazon. He will emerge from the jungle as a trained assassin.

  9. I’m in no way saying Ukraine shouldn’t receive or use AP mines, but my understanding was that using anti personnel mines was a war crime? Am I incorrect? (not that something being a war crime means anything these days anyway.. Looking at you Russia)

  10. jenner2157 on

    This was always a strange stance to me, like it makes sense to people who have lived in an extended period of peace to be against making an area unsafe with mines but ukraine literally shares a border with people who want to annex them, this place is already wildly unsafe.

  11. GeorgeStamper on

    Looks like Biden is all about fucking up as many Russians as he can before Trump moves in & moves out.

  12. AmorinIsAmor on

    Reminder they always couldve done this, they just wanted to pull a Nixon and prolong the conflict to use it for political gains.

  13. Might have something to do with the Russian escalation of 100K NK troops.

    Oh and remember when Trump just recently claimed to have told Putin not to escalate the war? Seems he doesn’t have as much as a bro relationship he thought he had.

  14. Montreal_Metro on

    Considering that US is soon to be a Putin puppet state, he’s doing this as a final FUCK YOU. 

  15. katt_vantar on

    You can call me ruzsshill if you want but this is terrible. Kids will get mutilated 30 years from now because of this. 

  16. HashRunner on

    “Undoing his own policy”

    Well if MSM/News and journalists hadn’t failed in their responsibilities things would be different. Maybe they address their policies and the countless hours of free coverage and sanewashing they gave a lunatic traitor.

  17. SuperDuperSaturation on

    Let Ukraine take the gloves off and give Putin a properly bloody nose

  18. biden really IS hell bent on dragging the USA into WWIII.

    what a putz

  19. No_Pomelo_1708 on

    Give Ukraine everything in the European arsenal. Tactical nukes, whatever, and let them use those weapons on the condition Ukraine hollows out Russian cities with fire

  20. Biden needs to start using his “official acts”, before the orange guy takes over.

  21. patriotfanatic80 on

    So a new president is elected that supposedly wants to end the war and the current lame duck president is now sabotaging him.

  22. llorTMasterFlex on

    Probably got lots of munitions that need battle testing. Lets go.

  23. migidymike on

    Adding some speed bumps for when Trump hands Russia half of Ukraine in 3 months.

  24. Anxious_Plum_5818 on

    The entire eastern occupied Ukraine has become an unlivable death zone for decades to come.

  25. This is so bad and Honestly idk why Ukraine would even request this

    APP mines are still active and hidden across Europe through past wars why UKRAINE would want to lace these throughout their own country is just bad

  26. Psychological_Roof85 on

    I remember the kids who insisted on playing Pokemon Go in Bosnian non demined fields

  27. Putin already knows Trump will be ok with land already taken so he’s going to make a larger territorial grab before Trump takes office hoping to maximize as much as he can before agreeing to a ceasefire. Biden is giving Ukraine the means to try and maintain hold on what is theirs without giving Russia more stolen territories.

  28. I really hope I’m seeing Biden react to every single threat with another step up.

  29. Deathglass on

    Yeah it’s different now because Russian territory is now (unexpectedly) occupied.

  30. As someone who lives in the EU. This is a bad idea.

    I understand the cause, but people still find these things from WW2 and died for decades afterword

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