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    Die Konservativen als „Trump-lite“ darzustellen, ist laut Strategen keine erfolgreiche Strategie für die Liberalen nach der US-Wahl


    Die Konservativen als „Trump-lite“ darzustellen, ist laut Strategen keine erfolgreiche Strategie für die Liberalen nach der US-Wahl

    https://www.hilltimes.com/story/2024/11/12/painting-tories-as-trump-lite-not-a-winning-strategy-for-liberals-post-u-s-election-say-observers/441450/

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    1. KageyK on

      Looking at the polls, I don’t think it was a winning strategy before the US election either.

    2. DisfavoredFlavored on

      The problem is, a lot of people unironically want that. Meanwhile you don’t need to make that comparison to people who aren’t planning on voting for him. 

    3. NZafe on

      Forgetting the Liberals, are the conservatives not drawing this comparison to themselves intentionally?

    4. NorthernHusky2020 on

      No Liberal strategy of any kind will work until they turf Trudeau. And even then, branding the CPC as “wannabe MAGA, maple syrup Conservatives” won’t work, no matter how many polls come out showing Canadians don’t like Trump.

    5. Wonderful-Pipe-5413 on

      Yeah because a majority of people are fed up with “progressive” identity politics. Trump win was a referendum on that, I suspect our next election here will be too.

    6. HanSolo5643 on

      It wasn’t a winning strategy for them before the election in the U.S. took place.

    7. AnInsultToFire on

      Yeah, in the US they were saying Trump is literally H*tl*r. Then Trump increased his vote share among blacks and latinos.

      Trudeau instead should call Poilievre “soft on immigration, even worse than me!” or “a free-spending money-waster, even worse than me!” or “a corrupt leader of a corrupt party, even worse than me!” I think that’s his winning strategy.

    8. frankjeffries11 on

      Nothing is going to save the liberals
      The only real question is if they will still have official party status after the election.

    9. Talinn_Makaren on

      Nothing is. We’re just going to stubbornly elect PP no matter how many clearances he doesn’t get and how many empty panderings he panders.

    10. Significant_Pepper_2 on

      >not a winning strategy for Liberals

      I mean doing something useful (or at least promising to do something useful) might be a better strategy.

    11. mr_derp_derpson on

      I don’t see how you can look at Trump’s protectionist policies, look at Pollievre, and somehow think they’re the same.

    12. ElvisFan222 on

      It looks like CON will win federally and the provinces will be all LIB/NDP come Oct 2025

    13. pivotes on

      A lot of Canadians like trump… I’ve met union guys recently that said he should be president of North America.

    14. IndianKiwi on

      It may even favor the conservatives considering how Trump and his policies is getting popular over here.

    15. SirPoopaLotTheThird on

      Let’s see the horrors Mr Trump delivers before the election. They will sway voters in Canada.

    16. DooOboes on

      Poilievre tagging the male supremacists of Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) in his YouTube videos wasn’t Lite at all.

      It was a straight-up MAGA approach.

    18. Rockman099 on

      I do wonder how you navigate attacking your opponent by accusing them of being similar to another leader that you are implicitly inviting the public to despise, while simultaneously trying to make deals with that leader.

    19. muffinscrub on

      Yeah, because it’s what people want in Canada too, so don’t temp them with what they want,

      For the conservatives to lose support here we would have to see what a shitshow Trump’s administration ends up being for their economy but I don’t think there is nearly enough time before the next election for that to happen.

      I don’t even want a Liberal government again. A minority conservative win will be better because right now it’s looking like a majority.

    20. Ancient_Wisdom_Yall on

      It must be exhausting writing articles trying to pretend that our next election isn’t a foregone conclusion.

    21. DevOpsMakesMeDrink on

      The most dangerous thing is that rhetoric will actually cause someone to think they can be Hitler 2.0 and attempt to do those things. And people will be ignoring warnings because for the last 15 years slightly disagreeing on a minor policy point was enough to be called a Nazi

    22. Independent-Towel-90 on

      No shit! It’s a ridiculous narrative they’re trying to push, and hopefully it backfires.

    23. Zheeder on

      They’re going to start swinging at the fences soon and will probably pivot to how majority of wHItE MALeS support PP, or something else equally as divisive.

    24. Circusssssssssssssss on

      Maybe maybe not

      Popcorn time. Don’t get too invested 

    25. toasohcah on

      Trudeau should put Sean Fraser in charge of his election campaign, I hear Sean is a real capable and competent individual.

    26. Egon88 on

      Realistically there probably is no winning strategy for the LPC at this point. It might be possible for the opposition to do something so catastrophically stupid that they end up losing, but there isn’t anything the LPC can do or not do that will cause them to win.

    27. daiz- on

      I’m seeing a lot of the rhetoric from both sides of the US pouring into Canada’s political conversations. At this point I’m just convinced that political ignorance is everywhere and people are just blindly voting for any form of change. People don’t actually listen or care about policy, or if the politician they are voting for has any concrete plans to fix what they think is broken. It’s more important to people to just try anything else and hope something good comes out of it.

    28. LuminousGrue on

      It didn’t work for Wynne either. Has it worked for *anybody*?

    29. joe4942 on

      Well yeah, because nobody in Canadian politics remotely resembles Trump in any way. Trump is Trump.

      Canadian politicians by comparison are total lightweights and lack any original ideas. Canada’s conservatives propose to “scrap the carbon tax” which doesn’t remotely compare to anything that Trump has proposed.

    30. WinteryBudz on

      If they don’t want to be painted as such they should stop pandering to the far right and acting like MAGA-lite. But I love how pointing out the obvious is “not a winning strategy” these days. But hyperbole and accusations that Liberals/Democrats are all socialist and communist is working pretty well for the right wing for whatever reason?

      We’re deep into the ‘post-truth’ era now. Truthiness rules all.

    31. darrylgorn on

      There is no winning strategy. The only strategy is to have a platform in waiting.

    33. Advocateforthedevil4 on

      Don’t tell people what they will do, tell people what you will do.  Also helps if you did what you promised last election.  

    34. Thank_You_Love_You on

      People cant afford food and shelter and entire demographics of peoples home cities and towns are changing rapidly. I think people have more important issues than Trump bad.

    35. stayslow on

      I mean PP voted against funding for school lunch programs for kids, voted to get rid of gay marriage, and voted to ban abortion in recent years. We know he hates unions too. I don’t think k it’s a stretch to compare the two.

    36. lbiggy on

      Yup. People are so angy at the liberal guy that they’ll vote for pure evil just because they think egg prices will go down

    37. Cent1234 on

      This is the same reason Harris lost; instead of saying what she’d do to improve the life of the average American, she said she’d make no policy changes, and the only real reason she gave for why she should be elected boiled down to ‘because DEI.’

      Trudeau needs to account for how he’s made Canadian lives worse (or, at the very least, accept the fact that things got worse on his watch,) account for the lies, account for the broken promises, AND explain how he’s going to do things differently and better to improve the lives of average Canadians.

      Tall order.

      Lets all be honest; the LPC is going in the penalty box for a while.

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