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    Junge Arbeitslose müssen eine Ausbildung aufnehmen, sonst drohen Leistungskürzungen


    Junge Arbeitslose müssen eine Ausbildung aufnehmen, sonst drohen Leistungskürzungen

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/18/young-unemployed-must-do-training-or-face-benefits-cut/

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    1. 1DarkStarryNight on

      > Work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall reportedly ‘will not allow’ young adults not to be in some form of education, employment or training

      > Young unemployed people must take up training or face having their benefits cut under plans being drawn up by the Work and Pensions Secretary.

      > The Times reported that Ms Kendall “will not allow” young adults not to be in some form of education, employment, or training, and will strip benefits from those who do not take up offers of support.

      > A government source told the newspaper that the proposals would usher in “the biggest reforms to employment support in a generation”.
      The source said: “Conditionality is a fundamental principle of the social security system and has always existed. That’s not going to change.”

      > Britain’s welfare bill has soared in recent years amid a surge in claims for mental health conditions, meaning one in 10 adults of working age are now on sickness benefits.

    2. ForAllTimesSake on

      Duh, every government keeps saying this but the situation doesn’t change.

      While I’m supportive of denying benefits to young people who are not in work, in education or training, I notice the article doesn’t mention who would be considered exceptions.

      We have an increasing number of young people now under section 3 of the Mental Health Act, locked up in hospitals. They can’t take on work or education and mental health hospitals don’t provide all their needs (believe it or not, they don’t provide ladies with sanitary products like pads / tampons!). These patients still need some money for basics.

    3. FilthyDogsCunt on

      For the 2 weeks I ended up signing on, all the courses they had seemed to be things like ‘office admin’ and ‘applying for jobs in the civil service’ and other equally pointless (for someone who’s worked in finance for 10+ years).

      If the courses were good people would go on them.

    4. Aspect-Unusual on

      This happened in the late 90s with Labours NEW DEAL where young people needed to take up in work training or lose their benefits
      This happened in the early 2010s with the the Tories work/train for your benefits

      Seems like every 10 years someone comes up with the same idea

    5. corbynista2029 on

      Plenty of young people are not training, working, or studying because of long term sickness or care responsibilities. The Tories have already turned conditionality within the DWP up to the maximum, I don’t understand how Labour can cut benefits even further without hurting people who genuinely need them. The idea that there is widespread misuse or fraud of benefits has been proven to be false and will continue to be false but somehow Labour is still behaving as if that’s true.

    6. Amazing_Battle3777 on

      Absolutely needed but let’s be fair too, there’s 7 million unemployed and 1 million jobs (roughly speaking) and half of them will be skills that young people don’t possess.

      The only way to lower youth unemployment is to have more apprenticeship / tax off hiring incentives – but actually make them lucrative. Not just accumulative value to big business.

      The government has just hit SMEs over 4 people HARD so I won’t expect anything to change from the job market.

      Probably more part time work and less full time in retail with all the changes coming in.

    7. getstabbed on

      The last time I was on UC the “training” they wanted me to do was unpaid work at Tesco. I was always told that you had to be paid minimum wage for any actual work you did, then they tried to force me to do that..

      Fortunately I found a job before that started.

    8. wkavinsky on

      Work or starve, sponging scroungers, say a bunch of old people who are scrounging right now.

    9. Generic118 on

      Am I being cynical in thinking this will be a bunch of absolute bottom of the barrel “courses” provided by some big manpower/outsourcing company that are nothing more than box checking exercises that cost far more than the benefits and provide no employability benefit ^_^

    11. JayR_97 on

      A big problem graduates face is junior level jobs requiring 3 years experience. How are you supposed to get a start on your career if you cant get someone to give you a chance? Companies just seem allergic to the idea of training people.

    12. ero_mode on

      If young people are provided the opportunity for free *certified* qualifications that are actually attractive to employers then I don’t see a problem with that.

      But yeah, it should not be linked with their basic necessities to live.

    13. Turbantastic on

      I wonder how much of this so called “training” will be working for free in supermarkets/customer service/restaurants, free labour for the firms and pointless “training” aka slave labour for the poor.

    14. Panda_hat on

      If that training was valuable or productive and didn’t just lead to subsidised sub-minumum wage exploitation jobs then maybe young people would be more interested in taking them up.

    15. AskthePSI-Scan on

      Well, will you support them in getting into a training program
      That won’t then conflict with mandatory job searching and pointless assessment meetings scheduled at the same time as the training course?

    17. Beautiful-Skill-5921 on

      I work with young adults (mostly male) considered as “NEET”s. They are a long way from being employable. 

    18. EddViBritannia on

      Why just young people? Everyone should be working for a living. State support for should be left for the truly unable to work. Too many people resign themselves from work over issues that can be overcome.

      At the same time we need jobs and buisness to accept these types of people and accomodate them best they can. Buisness these days run very lean on staffing, and don’t want to allow any buffer of personel in the workload. I really don’t want the goverment to have to subsidise positions, but it may work out cheaper than keeping them on benefits.

    19. garfunk2021 on

      Absolutely agree with all the backlash comments about this.

      As a hiring manager I always look for people who avoid training and have extended unemployment gaps.

      I’ll always hire people who show strong defiance to any authority or help. Great team players. Good additions.

    20. Cheap_Recording1 on

      Then the job centres need reforming massively, I’m on a telecoms training course atm that i had to find thru indeed, I’ve been to several meetings at local job centre, my background is AV so surely anyone who gives af looking at me would suggest that right?

      there needs to be willpower in the workforce there to get people back in jobs at every level, imagine instead if the worker next to yours overhears your convo and says shes heard about a course or role that is suuitable, rather than it just be a box ticking excercise to make sure you’re eligble for the dole

    21. PersistentWorld on

      Training in what?

      Training is unique to each individual job and employers aren’t willing to train (everyone needs a ridiculous amount of experience for starting roles).

    23. SmoothlyAbrasive on

      Why do we keep electing down punching pricks who know nothing about reality?

    24. Palmtreesandcake on

      What I find frustrating is when people claim to not be able to work any job but then they have kids. If you are up to the challenge of raising a child, there is some kind of job you should be able to do. If not, you can’t convince me they aren’t being selfish for having a child.

    25. EconomyLingonberry63 on

      What training though? The problem it’s it’s always bullshit training, just forcing people to do nonsense, no employer cares if you have a NVQ in custom service, if they do they will pay for you to do it, 
      We live in a post scarcity society just certain people in the population want 1,000,000 times more than what others want

    26. Terrible_Clothes_465 on

      Why targeting just the young?

      Yes let’s penalise those who have the most potential to contribute to the system and have taken the least out of the system thus far.

    27. Due-Rush9305 on

      Why is it always young people being told they are the reason the country is falling apart, when the single greatest benefit by a country mile is pensions. While some people are likely out of work due to laziness, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that, in the current economic climate, if you aren’t in work, it is probably not for lack of trying.

      It is not specified who is going to have their benefits cut. If someone is out of work on disability benefit, are they going to be forced to attend training or have their benefits cut? That seems immoral, if you cant work because you are disabled, you probably can’t go to training sessions either.

      There is massive value in offering training for those on jobseekers allowance, but the courses would need to be decent and of specific value. It would be too easy for these to be some rubbish online course which actually gives no real value.

      Also for every article like this saying that there are too many people on benefits, there is another one complimenting it saying they had their disability benefits cut because while they could not see anything, they had a guide dog so DWP took their benefits away.

      Overall, I think it is time we stop accusing the young and disabled of being benefit scroungers and reform the greatest benefit scroungers of them all: pensions.

    28. molenan on

      The schemes need to be relevant and worthwhile not just box ticking pointless shite or free labour for supermarkets etc lol

    29. CyberShi2077 on

      Flipping hell.

      University fees increased

      Opportunities for Uni leavers decreased because of increased Employers NI

      Economic growth is lower than expected

      Now they want to slash their unemployment benefit instead of you know, handling it case by case?

      The Tories in Red Ties are truly back.

      Edit: don’t forget to defrost your elderly this winter as well.

    30. rose_reader on

      If they want to solve this problem, they need to actually invest in youth work.

    31. Scottydoesntknooow on

      Sounds great if it’s real training for adequate pay – Subway sandwich artist apprenticeships for example are neither of those things.

    32. peyote-ugly on

      Are these training courses going to increase the number of jobs available

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