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    Wenn die Demokraten die nächste Wahl gewinnen wollen, sollten sie auf Bernie Sanders hören


    Wenn die Demokraten die nächste Wahl gewinnen wollen, sollten sie auf Bernie Sanders hören

    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2024/11/15/daniel-geary-if-democrats-want-to-win-the-next-election-they-should-listen-to-bernie-sanders/

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    1. Hrekires on

      The only people I’d be remotely interested in hearing from are the Democrats who won in states that Trump carried this year, or people who worked on those campaigns.

      If you’re associated with one or more failed national campaigns for office, maybe take a back seat for a few years.

    2. SeductiveSunday on

      What “next” election?

      trump said “Vote for me and you’ll never have to vote again”

    3. _mort1_ on

      What dems needs to do is to do an autopsy, and then throw it in the trash and do the opposite.

      Worked for republicans back in 2012.

    4. Threeseriesforthewin on

      America has a low information population, with willingly malicious cable news, mixed with strong foreign influence, all creating completely made up narratives, solidified with voter suppression in blue districts, and good ol fashioned racial animus.

      Republicans have a multi-channel propaganda machine running 24/7 365 days a year won, and low information voters gobble it up.

      Republicans won because they ran $200m in ads against trans people and attacked latinos, and complained about the booming economy. All while closing 100,000 poling places in blue districts.

      No amount of “listening to Bernie” will change any of those

    5. Asleepingin on

      I don’t necessarily disagree with Bernie, i just don’t understand how he can gloss over the criminal tyrant stuff so easily.
      I feel like something that important should never be left out when discussing trump. Don’t let them normalize it.

    6. Konet on

      Biden has had the most pro-worker presidency in decades. Literally today, a Trump appointed judge struck down a Biden DoL policy that would have expanded overtime compensation to 4 million more workers.

      Meanwhile, Trump, a billionaire, hangs out onstage with Elon, the richest man on earth, and promises to wreck the economy with tariffs, and the working class laps that shit up.

      So, no, we should not listen to Bernie. It is increasingly obvious that his appeals to class solidarity don’t fucking matter to the actual working class.

    7. NewMidwest on

      When has Bernie Sanders not said this? For him it’s an evergreen post.

    8. flyover_liberal on

      A few things.

      Bernie is wrong that Democrats abandoned the working class. However, many voters falsely believe that Democrats have abandoned the working class because of the right-wing propaganda sphere and its little pets in the legacy media.

      If Bernie’s platform is so popular, why did he underperform Kamala Harris in this election in his own state?

    9. Kaiisim on

      If Americans want freedom they have to stop looking to others to save them.

    10. smiama6 on

      What election? I think elections from now on will resemble Russia’s and China’s….

    11. Substantial-Hat2775 on

      Democrats need to establish their own presence on media outlets and not let the republicans control the narrative. It is way too easy for republicans to just lie, spew nonsense and spin the truth about democrats. While I do agree that democrats should keep their integrity, they also need to find a way to use republican tactics against them.

    12. notfeelany on

      Biden and the Democrats did consult with Bernie to craft his signature bills & laws. And even Bernie says so: Biden-Harris is the most pro union/working class, most progressive administration we have ever seen.

      But this election showed us that GOP’s culture wars are just as attractive to the American people, or maybe even more attractive, than actual policies.

      Bernie’s reverted back to his old ways of blaming Dems & that somehow the Dems have “abandoned the working class”.

      Also never mind the fact that Kamala ran on anti price gouging, expanding healthcare, lowering drug cost, building more houses, cutting middle class taxes etc. things that objectively will help people.

      But it’s not all working class. Black working class supported Biden & Harris

    13. urbanlife78 on

      How exactly do Democrats win back working class Americans when working class Americans literally vote against their own interests?

    14. Oregonrider2014 on

      If dems want to win the next election we first need to ensure we have a next election 🙁

    15. BigNorseWolf on

      I do not believe that there is any evidence that this will work.

      After hillary lost we had this exact same conversation. The dems changed nothing, ran the boring old white guy when things were bad, and won.

      We need things to be bad and a boring old white guy and we’ll win again.

      I’m for Bernie sanders programs but I’m even more for Republicans getting out of power so we can patch the hull instead of drilling more holes. The centrist approach did not win this time because things were bad and we were in power. I don’t think that automatically means a progressive approach would.

    17. Aryeh98 on

      Pretty rich for Bernie to lecture Democrats when he LITERALLY isn’t even a Democrat…

    19. AlphariusHailHydra on

      We’re not getting a next election. Literally just had an election about if we wanted a democracy or a Dictatorship, and dictatorship won.

    20. disdkatster on

      You can’t fix stupid and the American people are too stupid, ill-informed and self-centered to act in their own best interests. Harris was the ideal candidate for this country and I have had it with the hang wringing and analyzing of what the Democrats could have done differently.

    21. ABahRunt on

      What democrats need to do is be self respecting and do a coup. The country isn’t United States any more, you really need to do a secession, or more correctly a dissection. Get rid of the trash

    22. medusa_crowley on

      There aren’t going to be real elections anymore, you guys. I wish you’d grasp this FFS. This was not a business as usual election and there is no coming back from this. 

    23. pandemicblues on

      You think we are going to have another free and fair election? The 22nd Amendment will be overturned, and Trump will “run” again in 2028, if he is still alive. At best the USA will become a managed “democracy.” At worst, it will become a single party authoritarian state.

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