That’s a shame. It also posed a problem for him in 2020.
specqq on
She’s going to win by millions of votes.
In any sane system that’s all it would take.
All this article is saying is that the EC might not fuck us over quite as badly as it normally does.
^(Woo Hoo)
naotoca on
The Electoral College is the only reason he could win. It is a massive handicap in favor of the Republican Party and it’s undemocratic as hell.
edit: People, this “we are actually a republic!” shit is tired and lazy. This is not a word game where you see a word and it’s a cheat code to “win”. Your representatives in your constitutional republic are elected democratically.
JubalHarshaw23 on
As soon as the EC stops being useful to them, the Republicans will demand that it be abolished.
Homer_J_Pimpson on
If Texas went Dem for two straight elections the electoral college would come to an end
Mike_Pences_Mother on
>The system’s more obvious and fundamental problem is that it weighs some votes more than others in the first place. For example, Wyoming has one electoral vote for every 192,284 residents, while California has one for every 732,190 residents—meaning that a presidential vote in Wyoming counts almost four times as much as one in California.
And THAT is bullshit
Choice-of-SteinsGate on
If the electoral college was a handicap for Democrats in the same way it is for Republicans currently, the GOP would have tried desperately to abolish it long ago.
If all manner of gerrymandering tactics were more politically advantageous for Democrats, the GOP would be running on an aggressive election reform platform.
If the federalist society was a training and vetting program and power brokering organization that helped install liberals into positions of judicial authority, you better believe the GOP would be using all of its resources to shut it down.
If the national prayer breakfast was a national secular brunch, it would have probably been suspended by now due to all the terror threats…
Republicans try to win elections by subverting them, by sowing distrust in order to justify voter suppression, by making the voting process more tedious, by purging voter rolls more meticulously and selectively than is necessary, by passing laws that grant Republicans more control, legal authority and supervision over our elections.
Democrats try to win elections by getting as many Americans as possible to participate in the Democratic process.
As a result, the Republican party’s M.O. is to challenge and contest election results, is to mount exhaustive legal battles and disenfranchise Americans, is to pass ambiguous laws that afford them broad powers, is to do everything within their authority to suppress the vote and give themselves an advantage.
But if ever they find that it’s red counties who disproportionately suffer from these strategies, who are disadvantaged by these measures, the response will be overwhelming.
ennuiinmotion on
This is a really weird article. It’s so random and pointless. He’s made marginal gains in some groups in states that won’t help him, but also they aren’t enough to win the popular vote.
So…okay?
Give-Yer-Balls-A-Tug on
The electoral college is the most undemocratic system in the US.
vs-1680 on
The fact that the electoral college is so heavily slanted towards giving sparsely populated rural fly-over states huge amounts of power…is the only reason republicans win the white house. The same absurdly inequitable system tries to give republicans power over the Senate as well.
doublecalhoun on
wrong, the electoral college always favors republicans
if this country were actually a democracy with one vote per person, republicans would never have power
SWFL_Turtler on
Why would any person of color vote for Trump? Why would any woman vote for Trump? It’s mind boggling
BlurryRogue on
The fact the electoral college is the only one that matters in terms of becoming president is a problem. There shouldn’t be the possibility Kamala could win the popular vote by a landslide and STILL lose to Trump.
ArrowheadDZ on
The EC served a purpose 250 years ago, and prevented a problem that would have occurred. It now, in today’s media and travel enabled era, causes *exactly* the problem it was meant to prevent.
Strawberry1111111 on
Why in the goddamn hell would a black person vote for someone who wouldn’t rent to them and why would a Latino vote for someone who called them vermin? What is wrong with people? Has everybody lost their goddamn mind?
JediDroid on
How is the article both against racism and for Trump?
Injest_alkahest on
Can someone start a conspiracy that the electoral college is hurting Republican chances now so they can be convinced to abolish it and we can leave them in the dust bin of history where they belong with other treasonous and failed parties?
DripIntravenous on
I remember seeing someone on twitter call it DEI for republicans lol
silsum on
GOP is losing in its own rigged game.
Kind_Relative812 on
These articles speak as if he is aware of what’s going on. Diaper don is blissfully unaware of anything.
DavidRainsbergerII on
Republicans have only won the popular vote one time since 1988. Bush in the midst of the Iraq war.
janus1979 on
Democracy in general is posing a problem for Trump.
AbacusWizard on
>Donald Trump is poised to make historic gains with nonwhite voters in November
I genuinely cannot understand this. Do they not *notice* that he’s constantly trash-talking them and fully intends to physically hurt them if he’s ever in power again?
Pug4281 on
>But Trump has a problem. Even if he wins over a large number of nonwhite voters, it may not help him secure the presidency. It may, in fact, make no meaningful difference in his quest for 270 electoral votes. Trump is, ironically, crashing into the same roadblock that has stymied Democrats for decades now: The Electoral College overvalues white votes at the expense of racial minorities, giving white voters considerably more influence over the presidential race. Nonwhite voters are distributed inefficiently—for purposes of the Electoral College’s arbitrary geography—in states that are highly unlikely to put either candidate over the top. This biased and anachronistic institution is therefore working as the Framers intended: It was designed to give Southern slave states an edge in selecting the president, and today it gives white Americans an unfair advantage over minority voters by inflating the value of their presidential votes. After harming Democrats for so long, this disgraceful feature of the system might actually hurt Trump on Election Day.
Wait a minute. I know that it said it might hurt Trump on Election Day. But are we still using a racist system, in the year 2024, to determine a president? That’s terrible!
Oceanbreeze871 on
Democrats have to overperform and win by5-10 million votes to barely win the electoral college.
Republican can just show up and lose by 5 million and still win the electoral college.
This electoral college compromise they created for slave owners continues to eff over America.
Slowly-Slipping on
The electoral college poses a problem to every human being who cares about decency. Its sole function is to empower the tyranny of a frothing, hate-filled minority in destroying the lives of everyone else.
Y0___0Y on
The article is about how the non-white support Trump has been gaining over the last 8 years isn’t going to matter much because non-white voters mostly live in blue states, so their votes are worth less than white people’s in red states.
NoCardiologist1461 on
From the article, the essence:
“Today the Electoral College still dilutes racial minorities’ political power, though in a different way: It elevates the impact of whiter states and the white voters within them.
Nonwhite voters are distributed throughout the country in a pattern that happens to be inefficient for presidential candidates relying on their votes. In other words, racial minorities disproportionately live in states that are already guaranteed to vote for Harris or Biden in November—that is, fewer of them live in swing states.”
nanopicofared on
It will take a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Electoral College. We only need majorities in both houses and the presidency to change the number of representatives in the house. If you add a bunch of representatives, we can start to bring the electoral college more into the original balance the founders intended.
LA_search77 on
How can a party that, ever since the civil rights act, has defined itself by racism… Under Trump has made racism the only message, make gains with minorities?
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That’s a shame. It also posed a problem for him in 2020.
She’s going to win by millions of votes.
In any sane system that’s all it would take.
All this article is saying is that the EC might not fuck us over quite as badly as it normally does.
^(Woo Hoo)
The Electoral College is the only reason he could win. It is a massive handicap in favor of the Republican Party and it’s undemocratic as hell.
edit: People, this “we are actually a republic!” shit is tired and lazy. This is not a word game where you see a word and it’s a cheat code to “win”. Your representatives in your constitutional republic are elected democratically.
As soon as the EC stops being useful to them, the Republicans will demand that it be abolished.
If Texas went Dem for two straight elections the electoral college would come to an end
>The system’s more obvious and fundamental problem is that it weighs some votes more than others in the first place. For example, Wyoming has one electoral vote for every 192,284 residents, while California has one for every 732,190 residents—meaning that a presidential vote in Wyoming counts almost four times as much as one in California.
And THAT is bullshit
If the electoral college was a handicap for Democrats in the same way it is for Republicans currently, the GOP would have tried desperately to abolish it long ago.
If all manner of gerrymandering tactics were more politically advantageous for Democrats, the GOP would be running on an aggressive election reform platform.
If the federalist society was a training and vetting program and power brokering organization that helped install liberals into positions of judicial authority, you better believe the GOP would be using all of its resources to shut it down.
If the national prayer breakfast was a national secular brunch, it would have probably been suspended by now due to all the terror threats…
Republicans try to win elections by subverting them, by sowing distrust in order to justify voter suppression, by making the voting process more tedious, by purging voter rolls more meticulously and selectively than is necessary, by passing laws that grant Republicans more control, legal authority and supervision over our elections.
Democrats try to win elections by getting as many Americans as possible to participate in the Democratic process.
As a result, the Republican party’s M.O. is to challenge and contest election results, is to mount exhaustive legal battles and disenfranchise Americans, is to pass ambiguous laws that afford them broad powers, is to do everything within their authority to suppress the vote and give themselves an advantage.
But if ever they find that it’s red counties who disproportionately suffer from these strategies, who are disadvantaged by these measures, the response will be overwhelming.
This is a really weird article. It’s so random and pointless. He’s made marginal gains in some groups in states that won’t help him, but also they aren’t enough to win the popular vote.
So…okay?
The electoral college is the most undemocratic system in the US.
The fact that the electoral college is so heavily slanted towards giving sparsely populated rural fly-over states huge amounts of power…is the only reason republicans win the white house. The same absurdly inequitable system tries to give republicans power over the Senate as well.
wrong, the electoral college always favors republicans
if this country were actually a democracy with one vote per person, republicans would never have power
Why would any person of color vote for Trump? Why would any woman vote for Trump? It’s mind boggling
The fact the electoral college is the only one that matters in terms of becoming president is a problem. There shouldn’t be the possibility Kamala could win the popular vote by a landslide and STILL lose to Trump.
The EC served a purpose 250 years ago, and prevented a problem that would have occurred. It now, in today’s media and travel enabled era, causes *exactly* the problem it was meant to prevent.
Why in the goddamn hell would a black person vote for someone who wouldn’t rent to them and why would a Latino vote for someone who called them vermin? What is wrong with people? Has everybody lost their goddamn mind?
How is the article both against racism and for Trump?
Can someone start a conspiracy that the electoral college is hurting Republican chances now so they can be convinced to abolish it and we can leave them in the dust bin of history where they belong with other treasonous and failed parties?
I remember seeing someone on twitter call it DEI for republicans lol
GOP is losing in its own rigged game.
These articles speak as if he is aware of what’s going on. Diaper don is blissfully unaware of anything.
Republicans have only won the popular vote one time since 1988. Bush in the midst of the Iraq war.
Democracy in general is posing a problem for Trump.
>Donald Trump is poised to make historic gains with nonwhite voters in November
I genuinely cannot understand this. Do they not *notice* that he’s constantly trash-talking them and fully intends to physically hurt them if he’s ever in power again?
>But Trump has a problem. Even if he wins over a large number of nonwhite voters, it may not help him secure the presidency. It may, in fact, make no meaningful difference in his quest for 270 electoral votes. Trump is, ironically, crashing into the same roadblock that has stymied Democrats for decades now: The Electoral College overvalues white votes at the expense of racial minorities, giving white voters considerably more influence over the presidential race. Nonwhite voters are distributed inefficiently—for purposes of the Electoral College’s arbitrary geography—in states that are highly unlikely to put either candidate over the top. This biased and anachronistic institution is therefore working as the Framers intended: It was designed to give Southern slave states an edge in selecting the president, and today it gives white Americans an unfair advantage over minority voters by inflating the value of their presidential votes. After harming Democrats for so long, this disgraceful feature of the system might actually hurt Trump on Election Day.
Wait a minute. I know that it said it might hurt Trump on Election Day. But are we still using a racist system, in the year 2024, to determine a president? That’s terrible!
Democrats have to overperform and win by5-10 million votes to barely win the electoral college.
Republican can just show up and lose by 5 million and still win the electoral college.
This electoral college compromise they created for slave owners continues to eff over America.
The electoral college poses a problem to every human being who cares about decency. Its sole function is to empower the tyranny of a frothing, hate-filled minority in destroying the lives of everyone else.
The article is about how the non-white support Trump has been gaining over the last 8 years isn’t going to matter much because non-white voters mostly live in blue states, so their votes are worth less than white people’s in red states.
From the article, the essence:
“Today the Electoral College still dilutes racial minorities’ political power, though in a different way: It elevates the impact of whiter states and the white voters within them.
Nonwhite voters are distributed throughout the country in a pattern that happens to be inefficient for presidential candidates relying on their votes. In other words, racial minorities disproportionately live in states that are already guaranteed to vote for Harris or Biden in November—that is, fewer of them live in swing states.”
It will take a constitutional amendment to get rid of the Electoral College. We only need majorities in both houses and the presidency to change the number of representatives in the house. If you add a bunch of representatives, we can start to bring the electoral college more into the original balance the founders intended.
How can a party that, ever since the civil rights act, has defined itself by racism… Under Trump has made racism the only message, make gains with minorities?