>Gov. Walz: Did you see what happened last night? Trump was having a town hall and got asked about health care, and instead of answering, he spent over 30 minutes standing on stage listening to music. It would be funny if he weren’t running to be President of the United States
The secret service and his campaign let him place himself in front of hundreds of potential shooters for over 30 minutes. Incredible.
harleybarley1013 on
>At one point, after Trump spent minutes meandering through multiple trains of thought in response to a question about the American dollar’s status as an international reserve currency, Micklethwait attempted to interject into his rambling. Trump wasn’t happy.
>“You have got to be able to finish a thought because it is very important,” Trump said.
>“You’ve gone from the dollar to [Emmanuel Macron],” Micklethwait countered.
Fucking lmao. More interviewers like this guy please and thank you.
RamonaQ-JunieB on
Trump clearly knows absolutely nothing about any of this stuff. Not that it matters to anyone who is voting for him because he’s convinced them he’s a genius.
BluWake on
Old tired man has old tired ideas that even he doesn’t understand.
Feet of clay, body of rancid butter, brain of congealed oatmeal.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Republican Presidential Nominee for 2024.
Now let’s vibe to 40 minutes of music while we watch a senior citizen disassociate.
stark247 on
I hope someone does a super cut of that Bloomberg interview. It was brutal!
dblan9 on
>When questioned about the specifics of his plan, and if he was aware of its pitfalls, Trump seemed ignorant of basic economic principles, insisting that other countries, not American consumers, would pay for the tariffs.
>Micklethwait tried to explain the actual impact. “Three-trillion worth of imports and you will add tariffs to every single one of them, and push up the cost for all of these people to buy foreign goods,” he said. “That is just simple mathematics.”
>Trump countered that he was “always good at mathematics,” and that high tariffs — and thus costs — would force companies to move production into the United States.
>“That will take many, many, many years,” Micklethwait said, to which Trump replied that high enough penalties would make the move immediate as if companies could simply wand wave production plants, orchards, wineries, factories, and the like into existence.
He is a toddler.
YOSHIMIvPROBOTS on
>Micklethwait noted that when Trump imposed a tariff on Chinese imports while he was in office — one that is smaller that what he is proposing for a second term — he helped Apple deal with the ramifications, giving them a deal. Micklethwait then asked Trump how he would help companies that aren’t so big. Trump was unable to provide a response, repeatedly bringing up how he helped Apple despite Micklethwait’s efforts to get him to address small businesses.
MSNBC showed this exchange and the actual clip is more painful than that summation.
Interviewer: What will you do to help small business?
Trump: I helped Apple-…
Interviewer: …-Apple isn’t a small business. How would small businesses be helped?
Trump: So if you look at Apple, I helped them…blah blah blah.
Interviewer: Again, the question was about small businesses.
vespamike562 on
He always does the arm cross when he doesn’t like a line of questioning.
I commented on the main /r/politics thread about this, but last night was the biggest tipping point moment in the election since the headliner debate. It’ll take even longer than that to disseminate broadly, but now Kamala and the Dems have the prefect framing mechanism to position every single talking point against for the remaining 3 weeks of the election.
Trump’s entire shitck for 8 years been a common populist form of machismo bravado, mixed with a professional entertainer’s comedic timing. This unique combination is the source of his incredible public image resiliency. In short, he’s both (1) the strong man, and (2) the trickster god. He’s Thor. **Only I can protect you.** He’s Loki. **The smirk. The eyeroll. The rascal who is one step ahead of his enemies**. It’s why framing him as a scary dictator never worked, because it feed into that same image of a tough guy who will hurt the right people. It’s why the criminal framing has never worked, because people expect him to bend the rules. It’s also why the garbled nonsense he usually spews has never hurt him. Not when he plays it off as an act, a performance to hide in plain sight, a secret only his biggest fans are in.
The reason why the “weird” framing over the summer and the bizarre event from last night both actually hurt him is simple. Being pitied, being cringe, being uncool, weak, non-dominant, blank faced confused undercuts *both* of his strengths. A strongman doesn’t look like that. A strong man is always in command. A trickster god doesn’t do that. A trickster god may appear like a clown, but he’s always in control. Last night left him naked, exposed, swaying for thirty straight minutes on stage in front of his biggest supporters, with no one able to stop him.
And you can tell it’s driving him insane per last nights tweets and today’s interview, and his own supporters are on the offensive. The old maxim in politics is when you’re explaining, you’re losing. And every time they have to explain away the fact Trump is spiraling into full out dementia on live TV they are on the back foot of a narrative that will break the dam in Kamala’s favor.
Rated_PG-Squirteen on
You mean the guy who literally said out loud last night, “Who the hell wants to hear any questions?” doesn’t care to answer questions about the most pressing issues?
> The grilling exposed Trump's total cluelessness with regard to his own economic policy, and led Trump to attack Micklethwait as biased.
> "Some people went to the Capitol and a lot of strange things happened there, with people being waved into the Capitol by police," he added, nodding to conspiracy theories that the federal government helped orchestrate the riot to make Trump and his supporters look bad. At one point, after Trump spent minutes meandering through multiple trains of thought in response to a question about the American dollar's status as an international reserve currency, Micklethwait attempted to interject into his rambling.
>Micklethwait didn’t weave along with Trump, however, repeatedly working to bring him back on topic and answer the actual questions.
It’s weird how rarely interviewers do this with Trump.
newfrontier58 on
I really wish we would get more of this, rather than just the toadies and friendly interviews like on Fox. of course, this probably means they’ll have to conceal more interviews that highlight his utter idiocy.
HappySpam on
What’s insane is people will see this and still say “I think he’s better on the economy”.
hawkman1000 on
I love the bullshit story about the cabinet maker that cried telling Trump.he saved his business with tariffs. I think he had three stories where he talked to people during his presidency, and he just happened to see all of them a few days ago. He’s so totally full of shit.
ilivebytheriver15 on
On bloomberg.com, the headline about this interview just says “Trump Argues Growth From Tariffs Will Outpace Projected Deficits “ . Wtf how can they get that headline after he could not even give coherent answers to their own guy’s questions
Illuminated12 on
Trump literally still doesn’t know what a tariff is. Told the guy that has degrees in economics and studied it his whole life that he is wrong.
The other big takeaway for me was when Trump answered that tariffs wouldn’t create a trade war. How it would only be beneficial. Immediately Trump went on to tell the story about how France taxed some of our goods and he then threatened to impose tariffs on wine from France… Not knowingly admitting that was a trade war.. tit for tat that continues until one country stops.
The guy is dangerously ignorant.
TassadarForXelNaga on
Ok how in God’s forsaken name is America seriously considering this guy ? Ignore all the rest of the world just ignore it for a second and really think
“Is this who i want as a leader? ” and i am not suggesting just a useing 1 brain cell here but try to activate at least 2 more
He’s a little bitch. He couldn’t win a public forum debate against high schoolers.
FirstSonOfGwyn on
“Bluntly, the former president was incoherent when pressed with real questions about his policies.”
Appreciate RS not sanewashing it.
the2belo on
>“What does The Wall Street Journal know? They’ve been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you’ve been wrong,” Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.
He’s literally 6
KinkyPaddling on
>“What does The Wall Street Journal know? They’ve been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you’ve been wrong,” Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.
>“You’ve been wrong all your life on this stuff,” he added.
Literal toddler behavior. The WSJ had done a **huge** amount to help Trump – it’s Fox News lite for Republicans who don’t want to admit that taxes are more important than civil liberties. They’ve done nothing but call Biden an idiot, his cabinet members incompetent, and Harris inexperienced.
DanielToast on
Watched the whole interview, it’s so embarrassing. You can tell he really isn’t used to interviewers actually pressing him to answer the question.
Trump somehow believes that he knows more about tariffs than people who have spent their entire careers studying economics.
A concerning amount of people cheering for some of the most destructive fiscal policy I’ve ever heard uttered.
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>Gov. Walz: Did you see what happened last night? Trump was having a town hall and got asked about health care, and instead of answering, he spent over 30 minutes standing on stage listening to music. It would be funny if he weren’t running to be President of the United States
https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1846271396256592159
The secret service and his campaign let him place himself in front of hundreds of potential shooters for over 30 minutes. Incredible.
>At one point, after Trump spent minutes meandering through multiple trains of thought in response to a question about the American dollar’s status as an international reserve currency, Micklethwait attempted to interject into his rambling. Trump wasn’t happy.
>“You have got to be able to finish a thought because it is very important,” Trump said.
>“You’ve gone from the dollar to [Emmanuel Macron],” Micklethwait countered.
Fucking lmao. More interviewers like this guy please and thank you.
Trump clearly knows absolutely nothing about any of this stuff. Not that it matters to anyone who is voting for him because he’s convinced them he’s a genius.
Old tired man has old tired ideas that even he doesn’t understand.
[Whole Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX_IVnmoHUE)
“The weave” is a new euphemism for “dementia.”
Feet of clay, body of rancid butter, brain of congealed oatmeal.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Republican Presidential Nominee for 2024.
Now let’s vibe to 40 minutes of music while we watch a senior citizen disassociate.
I hope someone does a super cut of that Bloomberg interview. It was brutal!
>When questioned about the specifics of his plan, and if he was aware of its pitfalls, Trump seemed ignorant of basic economic principles, insisting that other countries, not American consumers, would pay for the tariffs.
>Micklethwait tried to explain the actual impact. “Three-trillion worth of imports and you will add tariffs to every single one of them, and push up the cost for all of these people to buy foreign goods,” he said. “That is just simple mathematics.”
>Trump countered that he was “always good at mathematics,” and that high tariffs — and thus costs — would force companies to move production into the United States.
>“That will take many, many, many years,” Micklethwait said, to which Trump replied that high enough penalties would make the move immediate as if companies could simply wand wave production plants, orchards, wineries, factories, and the like into existence.
He is a toddler.
>Micklethwait noted that when Trump imposed a tariff on Chinese imports while he was in office — one that is smaller that what he is proposing for a second term — he helped Apple deal with the ramifications, giving them a deal. Micklethwait then asked Trump how he would help companies that aren’t so big. Trump was unable to provide a response, repeatedly bringing up how he helped Apple despite Micklethwait’s efforts to get him to address small businesses.
MSNBC showed this exchange and the actual clip is more painful than that summation.
Interviewer: What will you do to help small business?
Trump: I helped Apple-…
Interviewer: …-Apple isn’t a small business. How would small businesses be helped?
Trump: So if you look at Apple, I helped them…blah blah blah.
Interviewer: Again, the question was about small businesses.
He always does the arm cross when he doesn’t like a line of questioning.
I’m reminded of a similar [crossed arms photo from the 2018 G7 summit](https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/06/09/c69def62-ab9b-4b6e-9b0e-7bd12368df7c/thumbnail/1240×826/17cf9ca8ba8bb224eb1063672a40672e/merkel-trump-g7-german-government-handout-6-9-18.jpg?v=29b5ccc4d237d9b284ce95a42effd073) where world leaders were trying to get through to him regarding tariffs.
I commented on the main /r/politics thread about this, but last night was the biggest tipping point moment in the election since the headliner debate. It’ll take even longer than that to disseminate broadly, but now Kamala and the Dems have the prefect framing mechanism to position every single talking point against for the remaining 3 weeks of the election.
Trump’s entire shitck for 8 years been a common populist form of machismo bravado, mixed with a professional entertainer’s comedic timing. This unique combination is the source of his incredible public image resiliency. In short, he’s both (1) the strong man, and (2) the trickster god. He’s Thor. **Only I can protect you.** He’s Loki. **The smirk. The eyeroll. The rascal who is one step ahead of his enemies**. It’s why framing him as a scary dictator never worked, because it feed into that same image of a tough guy who will hurt the right people. It’s why the criminal framing has never worked, because people expect him to bend the rules. It’s also why the garbled nonsense he usually spews has never hurt him. Not when he plays it off as an act, a performance to hide in plain sight, a secret only his biggest fans are in.
The reason why the “weird” framing over the summer and the bizarre event from last night both actually hurt him is simple. Being pitied, being cringe, being uncool, weak, non-dominant, blank faced confused undercuts *both* of his strengths. A strongman doesn’t look like that. A strong man is always in command. A trickster god doesn’t do that. A trickster god may appear like a clown, but he’s always in control. Last night left him naked, exposed, swaying for thirty straight minutes on stage in front of his biggest supporters, with no one able to stop him.
And you can tell it’s driving him insane per last nights tweets and today’s interview, and his own supporters are on the offensive. The old maxim in politics is when you’re explaining, you’re losing. And every time they have to explain away the fact Trump is spiraling into full out dementia on live TV they are on the back foot of a narrative that will break the dam in Kamala’s favor.
You mean the guy who literally said out loud last night, “Who the hell wants to hear any questions?” doesn’t care to answer questions about the most pressing issues?
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-crumbles-pressed-economic-policy-bloomberg-interview-1235134459/) reduced by 90%. (I’m a bot)
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> Donald Trump continued his pre-election economic event tour on Tuesday with a lengthy interview with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago.
> The grilling exposed Trump's total cluelessness with regard to his own economic policy, and led Trump to attack Micklethwait as biased.
> "Some people went to the Capitol and a lot of strange things happened there, with people being waved into the Capitol by police," he added, nodding to conspiracy theories that the federal government helped orchestrate the riot to make Trump and his supporters look bad. At one point, after Trump spent minutes meandering through multiple trains of thought in response to a question about the American dollar's status as an international reserve currency, Micklethwait attempted to interject into his rambling.
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>Micklethwait didn’t weave along with Trump, however, repeatedly working to bring him back on topic and answer the actual questions.
It’s weird how rarely interviewers do this with Trump.
I really wish we would get more of this, rather than just the toadies and friendly interviews like on Fox. of course, this probably means they’ll have to conceal more interviews that highlight his utter idiocy.
What’s insane is people will see this and still say “I think he’s better on the economy”.
I love the bullshit story about the cabinet maker that cried telling Trump.he saved his business with tariffs. I think he had three stories where he talked to people during his presidency, and he just happened to see all of them a few days ago. He’s so totally full of shit.
On bloomberg.com, the headline about this interview just says “Trump Argues Growth From Tariffs Will Outpace Projected Deficits “ . Wtf how can they get that headline after he could not even give coherent answers to their own guy’s questions
Trump literally still doesn’t know what a tariff is. Told the guy that has degrees in economics and studied it his whole life that he is wrong.
The other big takeaway for me was when Trump answered that tariffs wouldn’t create a trade war. How it would only be beneficial. Immediately Trump went on to tell the story about how France taxed some of our goods and he then threatened to impose tariffs on wine from France… Not knowingly admitting that was a trade war.. tit for tat that continues until one country stops.
The guy is dangerously ignorant.
Ok how in God’s forsaken name is America seriously considering this guy ? Ignore all the rest of the world just ignore it for a second and really think
“Is this who i want as a leader? ” and i am not suggesting just a useing 1 brain cell here but try to activate at least 2 more
>Journalist Bob Woodward reports in his new book *War* that Trump has [spoken to Russian President Vladimir Putin](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-secretly-sent-putin-covid-tests-bob-woodward-book-1235128743/) multiple times since leaving office. Trump’s team denied this, but Trump declined to do so himself on Tuesday, telling Micklethwait that he won’t comment on it, but that if he did talk to Putin it would “be a smart thing.”
So he’s talked to Putin
He’s a little bitch. He couldn’t win a public forum debate against high schoolers.
“Bluntly, the former president was incoherent when pressed with real questions about his policies.”
Appreciate RS not sanewashing it.
>“What does The Wall Street Journal know? They’ve been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you’ve been wrong,” Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.
He’s literally 6
>“What does The Wall Street Journal know? They’ve been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you’ve been wrong,” Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.
>“You’ve been wrong all your life on this stuff,” he added.
Literal toddler behavior. The WSJ had done a **huge** amount to help Trump – it’s Fox News lite for Republicans who don’t want to admit that taxes are more important than civil liberties. They’ve done nothing but call Biden an idiot, his cabinet members incompetent, and Harris inexperienced.
Watched the whole interview, it’s so embarrassing. You can tell he really isn’t used to interviewers actually pressing him to answer the question.
Trump somehow believes that he knows more about tariffs than people who have spent their entire careers studying economics.
A concerning amount of people cheering for some of the most destructive fiscal policy I’ve ever heard uttered.