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    „Wir sind wie Bauern, die ohne Futter in den Winter gehen“ – Restaurants protestieren gegen erhöhte Kosten


    „Wir sind wie Bauern, die ohne Futter in den Winter gehen“ – Restaurants protestieren gegen erhöhte Kosten

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/10/15/we-are-like-farmers-going-into-winter-without-fodder-restaurants-to-protest-over-increased-costs/

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    1. YoureNotEvenWrong on

      What’s that, inompetent and looking for handouts?

      If you can’t run a business close, someone else will fill the gap

    2. badger-biscuits on

      Ye got plenty of free fodder and kept it yerselves

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      Hospitality businesses aren’t meant to be kept afloat by the government. Churn is normal and necessary.

    3. Alastor001 on

      If the expenses are high, the prices are high. It is as simple as that.

      Giant corporations can easily eat any increases without passing onto customers.

      Small businesses? No way.

    4. dropthecoin on

      I do feel for some of the restaurant owners out there. Serious costs have been laden over recent years including cost of food and energy. Often met on the other side by the public who are dismayed that the cost on their side has gone up too. So it’s from both ways.

      Of all topics, this will get the most backlash here. This sub goes full Thatcher when it hears of restaurant owners citing costs.

    5. Business_Version1676 on

      Sure stick the prices up again and make the portions smaller, it’s been working so well in the past

    6. FatHomey on

      As with the publicans, I have yet to meet an impoverished restaurateur

    7. jimicus on

      How is it the government responsibility to bail out a private business?

    8. fedupofbrick on

      > It is a fortnight since the Government ignored pleading from the hospitality sector and refused to cut the VAT rate from 13.5 per cent back to Covid-19 levels of 9 per cent in the budget

      I too would like to pay less tax. Funny how when the vat was reduced they still upped the prices

    10. SoloWingPixy88 on

      “Hughes has 25 full- and part-time staff, of whom 90 per cent are on the minimum wage;”

      Kind of says it all.

    11. garcia1723 on

      They’d have a lot more support if they were passing on the vat reduction. Fuck them the greedy cunts.

    12. Exciting_Revenue645 on

      2 x 2 Course Set Menu is €72 in this place but sure, it’s everyone else’s fault

    14. marquess_rostrevor on

      This smells like a builder complaining about wages and driving away in a new Range Rover.

    15. More-Investment-2872 on

      If you can’t make a go of your business close it down and do something else. Nobody owes you a living. These losers were spoiled during COVID and are now looking for handouts. The fact that government has put hundreds of millions of euro into the economy in the form of tax cuts to increase disposable income appears to be lost on these guys. Pay your taxes and carry on charging €8 for a slice of Sysco cheesecake. Anywhere that charges more than the hourly wage that they are paying their staff for a starter deserves to close down.

    16. Irishpanda88 on

      The extra 4.5% in vat isn’t what’s stopping people going out. If a cup of coffee costs €4 it’ll only be marginally cheaper at the 9% rate. The problem is that it’s €4.

    17. justiancredible on

      When Covid was clearing and we were encouraged to stay local and support the restaurant and hotel industry they gouged the prices up to maximise profits.

      No sympathy for these owners.

      It’s the staff, who are prob on minimum wage and ungodly hours, who are losing their jobs I feel sorry for.

    18. MemestNotTeen on

      Restaurants tied themselves to the hotel industry who have been taking in such ungodly amounts of profit since COVID between surge pricing around concerts and taking in government money for housing migrants.

      The industry seems to forget the tax break was due to decreased footfall as a result of forced closures

    19. rmc on

      > Burke wonders how much she can realistically charge for a coffee and a scone to absorb the costs.

      How much does she charge now?

    21. ProfessionalPeanut83 on

      Half the comments here are from people with not an iota of how much it costs to run a local cafe or restaurant in Ireland. This one lad complaining of steak not being from a local butchers and freshly baked buns? What planet are you living on?

      It’s from suppliers who raise their prices, along with electricity and council rates skyrocketing. So naturally some places have to raise prices to keep their head above water because not every restaurant is in Donnybrook or ballsbridge and has a wealthy population around it to soak up the costs.

      Cop on and wake up from your dream land half of you.

    22. Goo_Eyes on

      ‘member they all shafted us during re-opening during/after covid because there was higher demand and decided to grab all they could despite getting loads of financial support from government for years?

      🖕

    23. Leavser1 on

      We can pile on restaurants as much as we want (and let’s be honest the whole hospitality area hasn’t covered themselves in glory the last few years) but there are too many big name restaurants closing for it to be anything but a crisis

      Something drastically needs to happen to make these businesses viable

    24. unwiseeyes on

      They literally begrudge paying minimum wage while they drive around in brand-new cars. Pricks.

    25. OldMcGroin on

      If these lads get a VAT reduction but don’t lower their prices, they will be in the same situation. The problem is footfall. Less people want to eat out for extortionate prices as opposed to reasonable prices. Lower the prices, and more people will eat out, and more often.

    26. saggynaggy123 on

      They price gouged when VAT went down during covid lol they can either choose to price gouging or close up

    27. CommunicationLower51 on

      What’s weird to me is that a good restaurant’s around me are absolutely booming with business. Surprisingly, good food for a decent price leads to a lot of business.and I wouldn’t say they’re cheap but the value is there.

    28. redsredemption23 on

      I do feel for small business owners, but as usual, the papers would rather punch down than mention the elephant in the room.

      We have a culture of greed from top to bottom. This fella pays his staff the bare minimum he can legally get away with and charges his customers the maximum he can get away with. In turn, he gets screwed by bigger players like the energy companies and large-scale suppliers who want to make a quick buck off small businesses.

      The lobbyists can call for tax/ VAT cuts, more taxpayer subsidies and cutting minimum wage to levels akin to modern-day slavery all they like (and they will continue to), but none of that will address the core issue, which, in particular, and in terms of what the government could actually take any action to address, is reigning in the greed of the energy companies.

      At the end of the day, it’s the customer who pays for the VAT anyway, moaning about it is just the current bandwagon.

    29. ScienceAndGames on

      From the article

      He faces an extra bill of €13,000 alone due to the Government’s decision in this month’s budget to raise the minimum wage by 80 cent to €13.50 per hour from the start of next year.

      “We are like farmers now going into the winter without any fodder saved to feed the cattle. We have nothing in reserve,” he says.

      Hughes has 25 full- and part-time staff, of whom 90 per cent are on the minimum wage; increasing it will wipe out the €4,000 budgetary support introduced to help restaurants with energy costs.

      He says that makes the energy support measure “as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike”.

      “That is on top of the extra costs of supplies, double time on the new bank holiday, increased sick pay and many more little extras that are crippling small businesses,” he says.

      Ah okay, so having to treat his employees better is his actual complaint. Yeah fuck him.

    30. LtGenS on

      These entrepreneurs should review their contracts with their landlords. That real estate is just not as profitable as it used to be and they should reconsider the rents.

    31. jamesmksmith88 on

      If you are relying on a 4.5% decrease in costs to stay in business, you shouldn’t be in business. Difference between now and a few years ago is a) more regulation and contributions which many businesses in hospitality avoided through shite contracts b) people had a reasonable surplus income that they were willing to part with. People will pay for low cost food because the kids will be happy with it, or pay handsome money for good food / an experience. Look at places such as Kickys, FXBs or Peploes – rammed every night of the week. What they will not pay for is gouging based on mediocre or even poor food, which comes at €20 plus euro per head. Maybe we need to see a natural decline in number of restaurants – supply and demand. Feels like anyone who is at a career impasse nearly opts for a cafe or restaurant.

    32. The3rdbaboon on

      Yeah it sucks but nobody on this sub cares. In time a lot of our smaller towns and villages will be like they are in America where it’s just generic chain stores like Starbucks, Cheesecake Factory, Applebees etc only we’ll have Wetherspoons and Supermacs instead.

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