Wie Sie alle wissen, ist Belgien ein Land voller Radarkameras und „trajectcontroles“ (Durchschnittsgeschwindigkeitskontrollen). Dadurch werden wahnsinnige Summen generiert, und die Tatsache, dass ein Teil davon privatisiert wird, ist ziemlich überraschend.
Ich bin kein schneller Fahrer, aber wie die meisten Menschen fahre ich manchmal etwas schneller als erlaubt. Besonders schnell vergisst man das in einer Tempo-30-Zone. Allerdings habe ich in den letzten sechs Jahren keine einzige Geldstrafe erhalten, und ich denke, das liegt größtenteils an Waze.
Es warnt mich ständig vor jeder durchschnittlichen Geschwindigkeitsüberprüfung und Radarfalle. Ich bin immer wieder beeindruckt, wie es fast jede Radarfalle und Gefahr auf belgischen Straßen kennt.
Meine Frage an euch alle lautet also: Benutzt ihr Waze?
Wenn wir es alle nutzen würden, könnten wir dann nicht die meisten Radarfallen umgehen? Denn ehrlich gesagt denke ich, dass es mehr um Geldverdienen als um Sicherheit geht.
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Von baaskaass
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It is always about safety. It just so happens that the amount of drivers not obeying the rules is so staggeringly high that a couple of checkpoints bring in millions of euros. The problem lies with the general acceptance of disobeying the rules when driving a car.
I don’t use Waze, I use the round circular things with numbers in them on the side of the road to know how fast I can go.
This has given me one fine in about 400.000km driven.
I think its a proven fact that this is about money. The amount of stories in the news about
trajectory control mgmt companies demanding remover of speedbumps etc make that more then clear.
You should lead a revolutionary movement and not give the state more money. You and your fellow revolutionaries only need to do one thing: obey the speed limit,
That will show them!
I use google maps. i’m happy it gives speed and speed limit. altho not always correct sadly enough. its a somewhat usefull guide.
there is little excuse to speed tbh. either you are not paying attention or you are in no condition to drive (drunk/sick/tired). Most are on a highway i’d say.
But yeah, it is stupid crazy the city ones are private owned with weird ass shady rules. thank mister janssens for that. i hate speeding, but this is near borderline entrapment.
making roads you can speed on by using axis movement, zigzag parking and other more proven methods for general safety. not just a wallet.
i think giving people fines for driving too fast is a better way for our government to get more money than raise our taxes. if you can’t pay attention to your speed while driving, you deserve that fine.
My mom uses Waze, but I still appreciate these trajectcontroles. It’s the only way to get her to drive a reasonable speed =) And I’m saying that knowing she’d often drive 160km/h, and has gone over 250 in the past.
I imagine a lot of people are about the same, so please keep them. (Even though I don’t plan on driving a car myself)
I do use Waze all the time. Never received any fine since I started using it. Tbh, I don’t really speed either, maybe at the highways sometimes, but nothing higher than 130.
I love how every Belgian is at the same time “goverment is stealing our money with those speed traps” and “well you just need to look at the signs, you obv. can’t drive and should kill yourself from shame if you ever missed a street sign”
Never mind Belgium has more street signs than anywhere on earth. (hey, those signs also bring in a good income!!). I haven’t had a fine in all my driving career, but those 30 km/he trajectcontroles are sometimes very short. One distraction and you could be over the limit.
Ofc Reddit will now declare me a road pirate for this message, and try to convince me I should have never gotten my licencen and it’s a miracle I haven’t killed anyone on the road yet.
Since I have a car with adaptive cruise control that works pretty well, I rarely drive too fast, so no need for warnings about speed traps.
I don’t see a reason not to use things like Waze.
I can’t drive without waze , 100% reliable so far
i never used any app and never got fined, i just drive the limit and on the limit. the only moments i might overtake a bit faster is when there is a pipo infront of me and i rather have it behind me
Just drive the speed limit, no more worries.
That said I do use Waze. Not to know where I can speed or not, but because the mess that is Zone this and Zone that making the speed limit not always clear.
I mostly use this old, forgotten, magical technique that’s completely unknown to many drivers. Don’t tell anyone cause it’s super secret, but it’s called>!looking at traffic signs!<.
This weekend I was overtaken by the son of Glenn Janssens (Trafiroad) in his green Lamborghini Urus while I was doing the speedlimit. I wonder if his fines automatically get filtered out
Waze saved my families life by warning us for an object on the German higways. It was a car’s bonnet laying in the lane I was driving 140km per hour. Without the warning, i might have run over it for it was barely visible.
Just pay attention and don’t drive too fast. If you can’t handle that maybe you shouldn’t get behind the wheel at all.
I was unaware that some of this was privatised, after a little searching it’s pretty disgusting to see [such a portion](https://gocar.be/nl/autonieuws/boetes/trajectcontroles-enorme-inkomsten-belanden-in-de-zakken-van-privebedrijf) of the money coming in is going to private companies
I’m starting to use it on every trajectory now, I got fined twice in places I’m familiar with, where they changed the max speed and put traps.
> Because, to be honest, I think it’s more about making money than about safety.
Stop trying to find excuses to not follow the law.
I use Waze on nearly every drive. If I’m not using Waze, it’s either a very short trip where I know all the speed traps, or I’m using AmiGO (TomTom navigation, good for motorcycle trips) which also has built in speed trap/trajectcontrole warning.
The neat thing about AmiGO, when the TC is over, it will tell you your average speed for that TC.
I only have one question regarding trajectcontroles and zone 30 at schools.
Are they also implied in the weekends or at night?
I always feel like a fool while driving 30 on a Sunday when schools are closed and that street could easily be a zone 50.
Is there a map of those zones?
I don’t like Waze
Are these people giving the magic recipe of ‘respect speed limits’ the ones that take the left lane just to go 1km/h faster than the car in the right lane? My god, reading some answers here you can understand how sometimes traffic is not fluent not only because there are a lot of cars but because of how some people drive.
This mentality of criminalizing whoever is going at lets say 130km/h in a highway no matter traffic/road conditions is just no-sense.
I now use Waze even to go at 2Km at te local supermarket… just and only for radars!
I’m a criminal now since 2 years – I’ve drove at 62Km/h in a street limited to 30… of course no detah people, no wounded, no accident at all. Just flashed at 62Km/h.
I had to go in court, I barely (with a good lawyer) avoid a cancellation of my driving licence, I had a hefty fine and I need to follow a 1 week training about “the danger of speeding”.
I’m followed by a justice Officer, just like – and at same level – than someone trafficking 3 tons of cocaine in Antwerpen, or is a serial killer, or is like Dutroux (one of the most infamous pedophil / murderer of history in Europe). It’s the law.
When the police officer came for a visit he was surprised by the pictures and the trophies on my wall, podiums (or sometimes winner) of amateur motor racing (moto 50cc then 125cc, rallye, circuit, up to 1 time in Formula Ford) and asked if it was me… indeed… Then he asked “well, for you probably 62 km/h is not really an high speed – but the law is the law”
Btw how much is the tolerance for trajet and normal speed cameras? For example if limit is 70 how fast you can drive without getting a fine?