The other day there was some lenghthy, very popular twitter thread from some woman in MN who claimed her anon father had a bad story about Walz or something (it was very long and I didn’t bother reading it) and the replies were all “oh dear well clearly he can’t be trusted and all I could think was “so you believe this anon but not the dozens of republicans and military brass who actually worked with trump, huh?”
Susan_Evans_895 on
Can’t believe he said that!
WulfwoodsSins on
Incoming “I HATE MARK MILLEY” tweet.
sweetlike_g on
Milley’s comments highlight a serious concern; labeling Trump a “total fascist” underscores the danger many see in his rhetoric and behavior. It’s alarming how much power such figures can wield over a divided nation.
Independent-Bug-9352 on
Clearly a bleeding heart liberal!!! /s
I just have to wonder why anyone would choose to be on the side of the racists, the bigots, the “poorly educated” (Trump’s words). The side who 40 of Trumps own hand-picked cabinet including his own former Vice President refuse to support him again.
Sounds like a banner of losers to me. They’re easy for the grift, I guess.
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Low_Palpitation_2985 on
its scary how intense stuff with trump is getting. he’s gasoline. or is he the flame?
RealCandaceO on
Milley calling Trump a fascist is pretty bold, but it kinda lines up with the chaos we’ve seen. Makes you wonder what’s next.
Madbiscuitz on
Just like witches at black masses.
ReqularParoleAgnet on
A total fascist that Miley deferred to for years. Miley is the reason for the “suckers and losers” statement from Drump.
SweetGabriellaxo on
Well, if a former top military leader like Milley is calling Trump a “total fascist,” that’s something to think about seriously. We should be careful with our future leaders, especially if they’re seen as dangerous by people who’ve worked closely with them.
echoeco on
Milley saw it first hand and loves his country…T-Rump is ‘A Total Fascist’ resist now with your vote.
SweetSabrinax on
If Milley, who worked closely with Trump, says he’s dangerous and a fascist, it’s definitely something to take seriously. It’s not just political drama when it comes from someone who’s been in the room with him.
bx35 on
I just noticed how much “total fascist” sounds like “total fat shit.”
Even_Establishment95 on
So help stop him.
executingsalesdaily on
I hope Kamala wins for obvious reasons. However, I hope she wins so this man gets to live and die a natural life as well.
ICantThinkOfAName667 on
Hey this was the commander of the army when I was in
film_composer on
As is always the case for some reason, what’s going to be lost in this is that Trump chose Milley as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which means that Trump’s best-case-scenario defense (“this guy is a part of the swamp and is out to get me”) *still* implicates Trump as being absolute terrible at choosing people to work with. This happens all the time and is never called out. I know there’s limited time and attention span to call out all of Trump’s bullshit, but *he was the one who chose these people*. If Milley is a liar just saying things to take Trump down, the question should then be about why Trump has such a terrible barometer when it comes to choosing people.
It’s frustrating that Trump’s corruption gets all of the attention, because his incompetence should be far more than enough to disqualify him from ever being president again. He chose as his Comms Director a guy (The Mooch) who didn’t know that anything said to a journalist is on the record unless specified otherwise. Trump had been a public figure for 40 years at that point and didn’t know *a single* person who would be a qualified mouthpiece for his administration? 40 years in the public sphere and not one name comes to mind of someone who can be a good PR spin doctor for you? That is a mind-blowing amount of incompetence that gets swept under the rug as a low-level offense in comparison to the rest of the problems. Then things like this with Milley come up and the focus is on the inevitable Trump response of “Mark Milley is by far the worst chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff this Country has ever had” instead of the focus being on—why is Trump so bad about choosing people who could help him achieve his own goals?
It’s not even like choosing Betsy DeVos as the Secretary of Education as a deliberate move to cripple the department. He is so bad about choosing people who could have helped him get reelected in 2020. He’s a complete and total failure as a leader, and it’s not even in just a “I’m a Democrat and I find his leadership style appalling” way. His own supporters should have been furious with him that he didn’t surround himself by the sort of people who could build the wall or repeal Obamacare. Milley’s right that he’s a fascist. What should be more obvious and talked about is that **he’s not even remotely good at being a fascist.**
RepulsiveRooster1153 on
sort of kinda wonder about what happened to trump. he went to school and someone took his balls because he developed bone spurs to exempt him from the draft. yet he has the audacity to ridicule people who served? and maga idiots think it’s ok? [damn](https://imgur.com/hWahhnB)
Sir_Yacob on
It’s always fun when these weirdos bring up 6 year old news to us….anywhere else but the internet we would be like “I know…..this fucking guy”…
DramaticWesley on
Sounds like the general has a basic understanding of world history.
rufw91 on
If trump wins redditors gonna protest for days. Too much echo in here
formeraide on
I just finished reading “The Situation Room,” which documents the use of the SitRoom during all the presidential administrations since Eisenhower. It features hundreds (at least) of interviews of top
people.
I can’t tell you how unheard of a comment like this is. The whole chapter on Trump was filled with serious criticisms, unlike any other chapter in the book.
But this quote takes the cake. LISTEN PEOPLE!
icouldusemorecoffee on
Unlike Gen. McMaster, Milley can at least call out Trump for who he is and not quibble about just how bad Trump really was.
Inside-Today-3360 on
From what I see the war machine and beauracrats are worried about there cash cow
FlamingTrollz on
Yup.
Wine_Women_Song on
I hope all the brass that worked with and for General Miley are listening closely.
tech57 on
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/youre-gonna-have-a-fucking-war-mark-milleys-fight-to-stop-trump-from-striking-iran
>A running concern for Milley was the prospect of Trump pushing the nation into a military conflict with Iran. He saw this as a real threat, in part because of a meeting with the President in the early months of 2020, at which one of Trump’s advisers raised the prospect of taking military action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons if Trump were to lose the election. At another meeting, at which Trump was not present, some of the President’s foreign-policy advisers again pushed military action against Iran. Milley later said that, when he asked why they were so intent on attacking Iran, Vice-President Mike Pence replied, “Because they are evil.”
https://krdo.com/politics/cnn-us-politics/2021/09/14/woodward-book-worried-trump-could-go-rogue-milley-took-top-secret-action-to-protect-nuclear-weapons/
> Milley worried that Trump could ‘go rogue,’ the authors write.
>
> “You never know what a president’s trigger point is,” Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.
>
> In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon’s war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.
>
> “No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.
>
> “Got it?” Milley asked, according to the book.
>
> “Yes, sir.”
>
> ‘Milley considered it an oath,’ the authors write
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/09/report-gen-milley-held-top-secret-meeting-to-block-trumps-access-to-nukes-told-staff-to-disobey-all-but-his-orders/
> In the days following the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley held a top-secret meeting with senior military officials to take action against then Commander-in-chief Donald Trump, blocking the president from potentially launching nuclear weapons and ordering staff to ignore all orders except Milley’s, a new book entitled “Peril” by journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa revealed, as reported by CNN on Tuesday.
>
>
> In the secret meeting, Milley ordered the officials in charge of the National Military Command Center not to take orders from anyone except him.
>
> “No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley ordered, according to the book. The general then moved around the room and received verbal confirmation from each person.
>
> “Got it?” Milley asked, the book said. The authors wrote that Milley considered the order “an oath.”
>
>In the calls, Milley sought to assure Li the United States was stable and not going to attack and, if there were to be an attack, he would alert his counterpart ahead of time, the report said.
EJCret on
the bigliest and most tremendous fascist
magagr on
In equally surprising news, he affirms that the Pope is Catholic.
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The other day there was some lenghthy, very popular twitter thread from some woman in MN who claimed her anon father had a bad story about Walz or something (it was very long and I didn’t bother reading it) and the replies were all “oh dear well clearly he can’t be trusted and all I could think was “so you believe this anon but not the dozens of republicans and military brass who actually worked with trump, huh?”
Can’t believe he said that!
Incoming “I HATE MARK MILLEY” tweet.
Milley’s comments highlight a serious concern; labeling Trump a “total fascist” underscores the danger many see in his rhetoric and behavior. It’s alarming how much power such figures can wield over a divided nation.
Clearly a bleeding heart liberal!!! /s
I just have to wonder why anyone would choose to be on the side of the racists, the bigots, the “poorly educated” (Trump’s words). The side who 40 of Trumps own hand-picked cabinet including his own former Vice President refuse to support him again.
Sounds like a banner of losers to me. They’re easy for the grift, I guess.
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its scary how intense stuff with trump is getting. he’s gasoline. or is he the flame?
Milley calling Trump a fascist is pretty bold, but it kinda lines up with the chaos we’ve seen. Makes you wonder what’s next.
Just like witches at black masses.
A total fascist that Miley deferred to for years. Miley is the reason for the “suckers and losers” statement from Drump.
Well, if a former top military leader like Milley is calling Trump a “total fascist,” that’s something to think about seriously. We should be careful with our future leaders, especially if they’re seen as dangerous by people who’ve worked closely with them.
Milley saw it first hand and loves his country…T-Rump is ‘A Total Fascist’ resist now with your vote.
If Milley, who worked closely with Trump, says he’s dangerous and a fascist, it’s definitely something to take seriously. It’s not just political drama when it comes from someone who’s been in the room with him.
I just noticed how much “total fascist” sounds like “total fat shit.”
So help stop him.
I hope Kamala wins for obvious reasons. However, I hope she wins so this man gets to live and die a natural life as well.
Hey this was the commander of the army when I was in
As is always the case for some reason, what’s going to be lost in this is that Trump chose Milley as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, which means that Trump’s best-case-scenario defense (“this guy is a part of the swamp and is out to get me”) *still* implicates Trump as being absolute terrible at choosing people to work with. This happens all the time and is never called out. I know there’s limited time and attention span to call out all of Trump’s bullshit, but *he was the one who chose these people*. If Milley is a liar just saying things to take Trump down, the question should then be about why Trump has such a terrible barometer when it comes to choosing people.
It’s frustrating that Trump’s corruption gets all of the attention, because his incompetence should be far more than enough to disqualify him from ever being president again. He chose as his Comms Director a guy (The Mooch) who didn’t know that anything said to a journalist is on the record unless specified otherwise. Trump had been a public figure for 40 years at that point and didn’t know *a single* person who would be a qualified mouthpiece for his administration? 40 years in the public sphere and not one name comes to mind of someone who can be a good PR spin doctor for you? That is a mind-blowing amount of incompetence that gets swept under the rug as a low-level offense in comparison to the rest of the problems. Then things like this with Milley come up and the focus is on the inevitable Trump response of “Mark Milley is by far the worst chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff this Country has ever had” instead of the focus being on—why is Trump so bad about choosing people who could help him achieve his own goals?
It’s not even like choosing Betsy DeVos as the Secretary of Education as a deliberate move to cripple the department. He is so bad about choosing people who could have helped him get reelected in 2020. He’s a complete and total failure as a leader, and it’s not even in just a “I’m a Democrat and I find his leadership style appalling” way. His own supporters should have been furious with him that he didn’t surround himself by the sort of people who could build the wall or repeal Obamacare. Milley’s right that he’s a fascist. What should be more obvious and talked about is that **he’s not even remotely good at being a fascist.**
sort of kinda wonder about what happened to trump. he went to school and someone took his balls because he developed bone spurs to exempt him from the draft. yet he has the audacity to ridicule people who served? and maga idiots think it’s ok? [damn](https://imgur.com/hWahhnB)
It’s always fun when these weirdos bring up 6 year old news to us….anywhere else but the internet we would be like “I know…..this fucking guy”…
Sounds like the general has a basic understanding of world history.
If trump wins redditors gonna protest for days. Too much echo in here
I just finished reading “The Situation Room,” which documents the use of the SitRoom during all the presidential administrations since Eisenhower. It features hundreds (at least) of interviews of top
people.
I can’t tell you how unheard of a comment like this is. The whole chapter on Trump was filled with serious criticisms, unlike any other chapter in the book.
But this quote takes the cake. LISTEN PEOPLE!
Unlike Gen. McMaster, Milley can at least call out Trump for who he is and not quibble about just how bad Trump really was.
From what I see the war machine and beauracrats are worried about there cash cow
Yup.
I hope all the brass that worked with and for General Miley are listening closely.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-bidens-washington/youre-gonna-have-a-fucking-war-mark-milleys-fight-to-stop-trump-from-striking-iran
>A running concern for Milley was the prospect of Trump pushing the nation into a military conflict with Iran. He saw this as a real threat, in part because of a meeting with the President in the early months of 2020, at which one of Trump’s advisers raised the prospect of taking military action to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons if Trump were to lose the election. At another meeting, at which Trump was not present, some of the President’s foreign-policy advisers again pushed military action against Iran. Milley later said that, when he asked why they were so intent on attacking Iran, Vice-President Mike Pence replied, “Because they are evil.”
https://theconversation.com/why-soldiers-might-disobey-the-presidents-orders-to-occupy-us-cities-140402
>Military members are not, however, absolved of moral responsibility simply because orders are within the limits of the law, for they also take an oath to “support and defend” and to “bear true faith and allegiance” to the Constitution.
>On June 2, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff – the highest-ranking uniformed officer in the U.S. military – went so far as to issue a service-wide memo reminding troops of that oath, one that may well be at odds with what the president may order them to do if he were to send them back into U.S. cities.
https://images.theconversation.com/files/341233/original/file-20200611-80789-118u55a.jpeg?ixlib=rb-1.1.0&q=45&auto=format&w=1000&fit=clip
https://krdo.com/politics/cnn-us-politics/2021/09/14/woodward-book-worried-trump-could-go-rogue-milley-took-top-secret-action-to-protect-nuclear-weapons/
> Milley worried that Trump could ‘go rogue,’ the authors write.
>
> “You never know what a president’s trigger point is,” Milley told his senior staff, according to the book.
>
> In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon’s war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.
>
> “No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood.
>
> “Got it?” Milley asked, according to the book.
>
> “Yes, sir.”
>
> ‘Milley considered it an oath,’ the authors write
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/09/report-gen-milley-held-top-secret-meeting-to-block-trumps-access-to-nukes-told-staff-to-disobey-all-but-his-orders/
> In the days following the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley held a top-secret meeting with senior military officials to take action against then Commander-in-chief Donald Trump, blocking the president from potentially launching nuclear weapons and ordering staff to ignore all orders except Milley’s, a new book entitled “Peril” by journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa revealed, as reported by CNN on Tuesday.
>
>
> In the secret meeting, Milley ordered the officials in charge of the National Military Command Center not to take orders from anyone except him.
>
> “No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley ordered, according to the book. The general then moved around the room and received verbal confirmation from each person.
>
> “Got it?” Milley asked, the book said. The authors wrote that Milley considered the order “an oath.”
>
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-top-general-secretly-called-china-twice-trump-term-ended-report-2021-09-14/
>U.S. General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called General Li Zuocheng of the People’s Liberation Army on Oct. 30, 2020 – four days before the election – and again on Jan. 8, two days after Trump supporters led a deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol, the newspaper reported.
>In the calls, Milley sought to assure Li the United States was stable and not going to attack and, if there were to be an attack, he would alert his counterpart ahead of time, the report said.
the bigliest and most tremendous fascist
In equally surprising news, he affirms that the Pope is Catholic.