Der Rückgang ausländischer Studentenvisa ist für britische Universitäten besorgniserregend

Foreign students realised there’s no point spending near 5 digits to study a BA in Art at an ex-poly university while living in a cramped flat with more roommates than is legally allowed while working cash under the table as a food delivery courier, when they could just spend that 5 digits money in their own country creating an income-producing asset such as a goat farm or a sweatshop employing 13-year-old orphans.

This is great news, far too many bogus universities about. The lecturers of the equally bogus courses will have to find new employment.

Many foreign students tend to look into education as a step for migration into the country. The UK unfortunately now has a bad rep globally with the cost of living, low wages, quality of life and also not as valueble without freedom of movement into the EU anymore. 

Student visas are seen as a cheaper alternative to property visas. Hardly anyone comes here for “education”, the intention is more sinister.

[https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/reverse-colonialism-uk-sees-massive-boom-in-migrant-populations-even-as-local-birth-rates-decline-with-indians-leading-the-pack/articleshow/114139136.cms](https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/reverse-colonialism-uk-sees-massive-boom-in-migrant-populations-even-as-local-birth-rates-decline-with-indians-leading-the-pack/articleshow/114139136.cms)

I do some research in my local university which is well respected Russell group institution. Luckily I’m employed by the NHS and not by the university itself. I’d estimate over half of the senior academics I have collaborated with over the last decade have been pushed into unplanned early retirement / voluntary redundancy over the last year, with no real contingency plans for their labs/groups.

We never should have been in the position where universities were propped up by foreign student tuition fees, but that is the position we ended up in, and now we’re seeing the inevitable crash. I’m not really sure how we’re going to come back from this – so much expertise lost virtually overnight.

It’s a biased framing that the BBC has put on this, student visas went down by 16%, 65k people, dependents went down by 89%, 100,000 people. They have limited dependents only to postgraduate research degrees.

I think it’s highly likely this will mean a big reduction in people coming to the UK for the purposes of grey market work. Who comes to an undergraduate degree in a foreign country, usually starting age 18-21, and brings their family? A lot of those visas will be effectively Deliveroo visas, where people are using the payment for the course as a way of accessing the country.

It’s an interesting point that even when the government does something sensible on migration they will not get the credit for it, because the media paints such a one sided picture of what is happening.

That pair of mullets in the photo is the *real* problem here though!

At the middle manager level there is a total failure of initiative to collaborate internationally to bring in cash from other sources post-Brexit. These people assume it will be hard without actually trying. They’re not willing to even entertain collaboration because they have an ivory tower colonial mindset that sees anyone or anything outside the UK as inferior. It’s not just the failure of policy at the governmental level, it’s people without the skills to manage programmes because they are academics and researchers. Course leaders and heads of department are not experienced, qualified, equipped, or resourced enough to do the job that is now needed because the support they had previously in HR and admin/business support have been the first areas cut as all but the few richest institutions have restructured and cut back massively. The problem is complex, but it needs a full system change to be addressed, and these places are too stuck in their ways to adapt so it’s only going to get more brutal.

The country is FUBARed, and the reality is only setting in slowly. It’s only gonna get worse from here unless something radical changes things.

Oh yes! I work in HE and and the chickens are definitely coming home to roost. That’s what happens when the University sector goes from focusing on educating people to focusing on just being another economic engine whose doesn’t care how talented you are as long as you bring in the money.

No shit! Over my 6 years in the UK, I ended up spending around £200000 and over £100000 was just tuition. It’s expensive af

I wonder how much of the worry is due to Universities spending the last few years buying and building huge amounts of property though loans, and now interest rates have increased but revenue is the same or dropping they are panicking. The university in my city has spent years buying and building, most of which has been on reclaimed industrial land but expensive nonetheless. And some of it has had to sit empty for a few years due to the cladding scandal.

The ignorance and anti-intellectual vitriol in those comments is depressing.

I remember when people in this country aspired to improve themselves, rather than just dragging others down.