> "In sum, the record evidence indicates that many of the works in suit are compilations comprising individual works," the 5th Circuit court wrote.
> The US Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit affirmed a jury's finding that Cox was guilty of willful contributory infringement, though it also vacated a $1 billion damages award because it found that "Cox did not profit from its subscribers' acts of infringement." Cox and other ISPs argue that copyright-infringement notices sent on behalf of record labels aren't reliable and that forcing ISPs to disconnect users based on unproven piracy accusations will cause great harm.
5th circuit sells their rulings to the highest bidder their work puts the whole rule of law in doubt
Zestyclose-Floor1175 on
The 5th circuit is a disgrace
slagmacg on
Since when does accused equate to guilt?
Asking for a friend. Who is definitely not watching pirated sports broadcasting.
GiveIt2MeBigDaddy on
ISPs are NOT the internet police for record companies.
firedrakes on
Concerned with accused part.
Simulacrum-Boulevard on
That the 5th Circuit doesn’t understand an accusation is neither a conviction, nor a ruling, is pretty disturbing for a literal court.
GabuEx on
The fifth circuit never ceases to impress me, in that we have an incredibly conservative SCOTUS and yet the fifth circuit still keeps being way too crazy for them.
Honest_Palpitation91 on
What kind of ass backwards ruling is this
party_benson on
Terminated the users? Kinda harsh.
Sweaty-Emergency-493 on
That’s like cutting off electricity. Like how can you access your bank account online and other important services?
phoenixdwn23 on
More like, “The 5th curcuit rules in favor of the internet death sentence for those trying to own the media that they paid for.”
knvn8 on
I don’t pirate movies or music and I still find this so disturbing. Internet access is increasingly required to survive in the modern age, giving record companies unilateral power to cut people out of the digital economy is such a wild power.
RIP_GerlonTwoFingers on
Just accused?
StonerPickles on
Do these judges understand what the word “accused” means? Why is it the ISP’s job to convict their customers? Why can’t these copyright holders just get a court order to suspend the service?
WrongSubFools on
This is absurd. Even if the death penalty is warranted here (and I don’t think it is), it’s crazy to give ISPs the responsibility to take someone’s life. That should only ever be done by executioners employed by the state.
burnbothends91 on
I’m probably seeing this because I was bitching to a friend that pirating is probably a good idea since we don’t own digital content anymore. Rethinking that now.
angelaistheboss on
Of course it’s the big 3 record labels lobbying for this, too.
Acting like music piracy is still a problem with the popularity of streaming services
safetaco on
Terminated meaning T-800 style or T-1000?
naitsirt89 on
Why in the world is the ISP even involved?
Draxtonsmitz on
The title reads like the court wants the ISP to kill the pirates.
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This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/10/record-labels-win-again-court-says-isp-must-terminate-users-accused-of-piracy/) reduced by 62%. (I’m a bot)
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> "The district court determined that each of Plaintiffs' 1,403 sound recordings that was infringed entitled Plaintiffs to an individual statutory damages award," the 5th Circuit said.
> "In sum, the record evidence indicates that many of the works in suit are compilations comprising individual works," the 5th Circuit court wrote.
> The US Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit affirmed a jury's finding that Cox was guilty of willful contributory infringement, though it also vacated a $1 billion damages award because it found that "Cox did not profit from its subscribers' acts of infringement." Cox and other ISPs argue that copyright-infringement notices sent on behalf of record labels aren't reliable and that forcing ISPs to disconnect users based on unproven piracy accusations will cause great harm.
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5th circuit sells their rulings to the highest bidder their work puts the whole rule of law in doubt
The 5th circuit is a disgrace
Since when does accused equate to guilt?
Asking for a friend. Who is definitely not watching pirated sports broadcasting.
ISPs are NOT the internet police for record companies.
Concerned with accused part.
That the 5th Circuit doesn’t understand an accusation is neither a conviction, nor a ruling, is pretty disturbing for a literal court.
The fifth circuit never ceases to impress me, in that we have an incredibly conservative SCOTUS and yet the fifth circuit still keeps being way too crazy for them.
What kind of ass backwards ruling is this
Terminated the users? Kinda harsh.
That’s like cutting off electricity. Like how can you access your bank account online and other important services?
More like, “The 5th curcuit rules in favor of the internet death sentence for those trying to own the media that they paid for.”
I don’t pirate movies or music and I still find this so disturbing. Internet access is increasingly required to survive in the modern age, giving record companies unilateral power to cut people out of the digital economy is such a wild power.
Just accused?
Do these judges understand what the word “accused” means? Why is it the ISP’s job to convict their customers? Why can’t these copyright holders just get a court order to suspend the service?
This is absurd. Even if the death penalty is warranted here (and I don’t think it is), it’s crazy to give ISPs the responsibility to take someone’s life. That should only ever be done by executioners employed by the state.
I’m probably seeing this because I was bitching to a friend that pirating is probably a good idea since we don’t own digital content anymore. Rethinking that now.
Of course it’s the big 3 record labels lobbying for this, too.
Acting like music piracy is still a problem with the popularity of streaming services
Terminated meaning T-800 style or T-1000?
Why in the world is the ISP even involved?
The title reads like the court wants the ISP to kill the pirates.