Susan Rice: Trumps angebliche Gespräche mit Putin scheinen illegal zu sein

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/4924145-susan-rice-trump-putin-logan-act/

    49 Comments

    1. sugarlessdeathbear on

      No kidding. I doubt he can wake up without committing some crime.

    2. account_for_yaoi on

      Time for the sixth indictment! (Fifth if you don’t count Smith’s revised indictment)

    3. meepmeepboop1 on

      As much as I’d love it to be but under the Logan Act nobody has ever been convicted in 225 years. It would never pass constitutional muster in this day and age anyhow, which is why folks don’t ever get charted under it.

    4. Putin said he didn’t speak with Trump, but then threw him under the bus regarding sending Covid test kits to Russia.

    5. Morepastor on

      He claimed he called Netanyahu about the Gaza hostages.

      Netanyahu definitely met with him at Mar Lago.

      The Saudis definitely have been to his New Jersey estate to do “business” and we know (because it was recorded) that Trump had secret documents there. We know they awarded Jared a deal that makes only Jared and Ivanka money.

      Several recent meetings – https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/politics/trump-meets-with-foreign-leaders/index.html

      Source on Netanyahu
      https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-accused-crime-benjamin-netanyahu-call-ceasefire-hamas-1942248

    6. loztriforce on

      I think Trump will die and the stories about the corruption in his admin will slowly trickle out for decades

    7. Who cares right? Nothing will be done and the gop love their glorious leader.

    8. The Logan Act states:

      >Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    9. faith_apnea on

      Is there anything legal about Trump, his organization or his “charities”?

      This guy is 1000% a joke. I feel terrible for anyone who thinks the GOP are legitimate.

    10. Ridiculicious71 on

      “Appear,” Susan? Can no one call this man out? And why now? Jesus. I guess Dems were happy to have Trump run again because he’s so vile, but just now getting to this is malfeasance.

    11. Viral_Poster on

      That f’er does more illegal shit before breakfast than most people do in a lifetime

    12. CalRipkenForCommish on

      What a strange way to spell “treasonous”. I know it’s hyperbole, but wtf, what is the line for republicans to just stop and say, “ok, enough of this shit. I’m out!”?

    13. splycedaddy on

      Can we stop pretending that these kind of laws are really for anyone but us peons..

    14. Ah, just add it to the pile of Trump’s illegal behaviors. Another day, another revelation, another no consequences.

    15. old_and_boring_guy on

      Since when is it illegal to call an ex-lover and have a hot hot phone sex? I thought this was America!?

    16. TheRealGeddyLee on

      If they were gonna get Trump for violating the Logan Act it would depend on showing that he either negotiated on behalf of the U.S. or tried to influence a foreign government’s actions against U.S. policy. AFAIK, public records usually show Trump’s interactions after leaving office as more like friendly conversations or advice-giving rather than formal negotiations.

      If Trump were to be accused of violating the Logan Act by talking to foreign leaders like Putin, it would likely be a tough case to make in court. The Act is pretty vague, there’s no real history of it being used, and it’s not clear what exactly counts as “negotiation” and what’s protected political speech or informal diplomacy.

    17. J-the-Kidder on

      It’s Donald Trump and Russian stuff, there is no other way to say it other than it’s illegal. But then again, the FBI has the tapes and has had them for a while, so I’m sure those charges are coming down any second now.

    18. LandSharkUSRT on

      Another opportunity for Merrick Garland to demonstrate how limp his tenure over the DoJ is.

    19. Mustard_Gap on

      Trump is synonymous with treason at this point. Criminal intent at every turn.

    20. delusiongenerator on

      In fact, we’ve executed people for similar acts of treason

    21. charleyismyhero on

      Yeah sure fine. “illegal” That’s a great big meaningless word, innit?

    22. SuperstitiousPigeon5 on

      Put it on pile 52AA It’s 3 miles from here and one over on your left.

    23. And Trump will say the magic words, “witch hunt”, and nothing will be done.

    24. “Don’t look at me! I don’t want to be political!” – Sir Merrick the Meek

    25. NeitherCook5241 on

      Can Biden use his Executive Immunity to put an end to this traitorous behavior please🙏. Trump
      Is risking our national security

    26. I am unfortunately really disappointed in the obvious double standards. If Trump is doing anything it is showing us that. If he really wants to make America great again he would be in jail.

    27. Garland doesn’t have the guts to do a damn thing about it either! It’s insane that Trump is allowed to violate the law so much!

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