Wait, what?? I thought Tugendhat people would back Cleverly, but instead Cleverly lost two votes? Is this some kind of tactical voting gone wrong?
Marcuse0 on
Well, looks like the Tories won’t be winning the next election if this keeps up. Jenrick or Badenoch. Man the membership don’t have any hope.
WebDevWarrior on
To quote the ever reliable tagline from Alien VS Predator:
>Whoever Wins…We Lose.
dalehitchy on
Lol…. Never fails to amaze me that Tories put forward the two worst people.
It should be super easy to win me over as a voter at the moment. I’m in my mid to late 30’s, I’m finally starting to build a bit of wealth, I own property…. But they just put forward these crazy politicians that are so bent on culture wars.
It really wouldn’t be that hard for me to actually vote Tory. Just put someone sensible forward that actually wants to build wealth in the country. Forget the culture war crap I’m begging you.
Grayson81 on
I thought Cleverly might try to tactically lend a few votes to Jenrick so that he could beat him in the final rather than losing to Bad Enoch.
I wonder if he tried to do that and he accidentally knocked himself out instead? It would be pretty on-brand for him…
Agreeable_Falcon1044 on
Insert George Gregan “four more years” gif.
Starmer has been having a crap Autumn. It’s suddenly got really good for him…
NGeoTeacher on
Out of the two, I hope it’s Jenrick, but it’s not exactly much of a choice is it. Both overpromoted idiots, but Jenrick is less of a far-right zealot.
PrrrromotionGiven1 on
Tories continue to learn nothing from their election defeat by leaving the centre ground to Labour
This might finally break the back of the two party system.
If we run into 2028 with Badenoch mucking about with the Tories. Whom retain their toxicity from their previous 14 years.
A Labour Party that doesn’t for some reason get some actual results through and are deeply unpopular.
And then a cadre of either lunatics like Farage and the Green parties on either end. With the libdems and SNP thrown in for good measure.
I could see a genuine result where the winner takes 20/23% of the vote. And of course with FPTP that could be an appalling majority of the seats.
It’s been coming for a while. But neither Labour or the Tories appear ready to assume a mantle of broad unifiers as they once did.
Badenoch is just not going to win. Never mind being a black woman seeking the votes or the top 10% of racists who live here.
BB-Zwei on
They said on the lunchtime news that he was the most likely to be in the final two. Low key hoping Badenoch wins for the entertainment value.
aredddit on
I didn’t know there was going to be a third Dumb and Dumber.
-Krovos- on
Well there goes the chance to have a Warhammer 40k fan PM lol
Critical-Engineer81 on
100% tactical voting went on to make sure that cleverly didn’t win.
OutNotUp79 on
Jesus Christ, the stories are going to pick the wrong choice. Again
No-Computer-2847 on
“Lads shall we try not being quite as mental as we have been for the last 14 years, maybe tone it down a little bit?”
“Nah you’re alright”
earth-calling-karma on
LOL this morning at breakfast time he was the favourite. “He made a speech! He said “Act Normal!”
– Now, he’s out.
Ruin_In_The_Dark on
“It’s like picking your favourite carrot out of a pile of vomit.”
lastaccountgotlocked on
The Membership have a track record of picking the shittest candidate. So it’s really anybody’s game from hereon in.
mathsSurf on
The “Beyond Thunderdome” option could be used..:with the last elected leader of the Conservative Party, Liz Truss, remaining Leader until a new leader is elected . A coronation does not count.
Saffra9 on
That seems like a huge mistake. Those two might appeal to the weirdos in the conservative membership but they wont do well with the general public.
Clbull on
I mean… As far as surnames go, Cleverly is an oxymoron when you look at the MP’s political record, and Tugendhat sounds like what I do when I’m browsing Xvideos. But somehow they’re much better candidates than what Jenrick or Badenoch would turn out to be.
SP1570 on
Now their deranged base will vote for Kimi “no maternity pay” Bad…truly astonishing to witness this party suicide
ACO_22 on
If Kemi wins then a genuine Farage PM charge looks more and more likely in 2028.
Absolutely despicable that this is the level of political leadership we’re looking at.
manuka_miyuki on
of course they knock out the slightly more sensible one of the three, otherwise it wouldn’t be a Tory leadership.
StatisticianOwn9953 on
This iteration of the Tory party will be interesting. Looks like they’re not going to be making Cameron-style moves on the centre, especially not with Reform harrassing them on the right. 2029 will be a good test of the belief that Britain’s discerning and pragmatic voters are drawn to the centre.
Le_Ratman99 on
The two most incompetent options. Neither will make it to the next election as leader. The party will only grow more divided under either of them, and will hardly be the effective and mature opposition a parliamentary democracy requires.
Fire_Otter on
They’re going to do it again they are going to pick the worst candidate available
Jenrick will be Truss 2.0
AssumptionClear2721 on
Oh dear.
I don’t think the phrase, “Choosing the lesser of two evils”, applies with these two.
Thejklay on
I don’t like cleverly but he’s clearly the most competent and least crazy one. Guess the Tories haven’t learnt from truss
Red_Dog1880 on
Labour must not believe their luck.
Lots of criticism aimed at them and then the Tories decide to go with 2 absolute idiots to potentially run their party.
Cleverly would have actually be a good option for them but hey, keep at it.
Frosty-Growth-2664 on
The Tory party enters its Corbyn years, extreme and unelectable. Will it take them one or two more general election losses before they realise and reform? Will they even last that long?
Pandaisblue on
Genuinely impressive how they managed to narrow it down to the two worst candidates lmao
Memes_Haram on
It’s amazing how the Tories have managed to put forth the two worst candidates for the job as the only choices. It’s almost like they are trying to make themselves even more unpopular than Starmer’s Labour. Might as well retain Sunak if those two idiots are the alternates.
shiko098 on
I know talent and decent MPs seem to be entirely absent across a lot of the parties, but it’s actually wild how few the Tories have. To think this is the best they have to offer…
Ok-Ship812 on
Hahahaha. They will salt the proverbial earth of what is left of the Tory Party. I hope Badenoch wins, they will become and evil little party full of evil little people who will be slowly dying off over the coming 10 years of Labour government.
The UK needs a centre right party but the Tories and Reform aren’t it.
Chimp3h on
And just like that, you can already hear the champagne corks popping at no.10
Inoffensive_Comments on
Honestly, doesn’t matter, and I don’t care – remember IDS as Selfservative Leader, 2001? or Michael Howard as Selfservative Leader, 2003?
No? Of course not. Because they were irrelevant, just like whoever gets the nod for the next Selfservative Leader.
UJ_Reddit on
Classic move to normalise extremes to push right the whole party and politics in general. US has been doing it for the last 15 years, and with it they bring the left to the centre. True left – Corbyn, Sanders – then become an “extremist” option
Jeffuk88 on
Is Badenoch the one who said women shouldn’t get maternity pay?
Away-Highlight7810 on
Love this. Tories entering their IDS/Michael Howard era ahead of schedule.
PracticalEffect6105 on
Some interesting takes on here. People seem to forget that for most of the last decade and a half, the Tories have comfortably dismissed Labour in GE after GE without any issue. The tories troubles really began when they booted Johnson out for unpopular and unelected party line replacements and in the face of a cost of living crisis which Labour seem to be doing very little to tackle either.
I’m surprised people think the Tories are dead. People are much less forgiving of Labour and I reckon that when they achieve fairly little by the next election we will see a Tory resurgence. Not my preference, but I think it’s likely
AtherianKing1 on
£20 bet whoever wins won’t be leader by next election
Suppose jenrick is the least disliked from my perspective, theirs no like with a Tory though.
Badenoch is a far right populist, famous by gob, say stupid win stupid vote, career obsessed no care for the country, she likes the title not the work, kinda like trump and the uneducated.
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Wait, what?? I thought Tugendhat people would back Cleverly, but instead Cleverly lost two votes? Is this some kind of tactical voting gone wrong?
Well, looks like the Tories won’t be winning the next election if this keeps up. Jenrick or Badenoch. Man the membership don’t have any hope.
To quote the ever reliable tagline from Alien VS Predator:
>Whoever Wins…We Lose.
Lol…. Never fails to amaze me that Tories put forward the two worst people.
It should be super easy to win me over as a voter at the moment. I’m in my mid to late 30’s, I’m finally starting to build a bit of wealth, I own property…. But they just put forward these crazy politicians that are so bent on culture wars.
It really wouldn’t be that hard for me to actually vote Tory. Just put someone sensible forward that actually wants to build wealth in the country. Forget the culture war crap I’m begging you.
I thought Cleverly might try to tactically lend a few votes to Jenrick so that he could beat him in the final rather than losing to Bad Enoch.
I wonder if he tried to do that and he accidentally knocked himself out instead? It would be pretty on-brand for him…
Insert George Gregan “four more years” gif.
Starmer has been having a crap Autumn. It’s suddenly got really good for him…
Out of the two, I hope it’s Jenrick, but it’s not exactly much of a choice is it. Both overpromoted idiots, but Jenrick is less of a far-right zealot.
Tories continue to learn nothing from their election defeat by leaving the centre ground to Labour
Looking good for Kemi. It will be nice to have a leader with a [‘working class’ background ](https://theconversation.com/can-kemi-badenoch-claim-to-have-become-working-class-while-working-in-mcdonalds-and-why-would-she-want-to-240638)
This might finally break the back of the two party system.
If we run into 2028 with Badenoch mucking about with the Tories. Whom retain their toxicity from their previous 14 years.
A Labour Party that doesn’t for some reason get some actual results through and are deeply unpopular.
And then a cadre of either lunatics like Farage and the Green parties on either end. With the libdems and SNP thrown in for good measure.
I could see a genuine result where the winner takes 20/23% of the vote. And of course with FPTP that could be an appalling majority of the seats.
It’s been coming for a while. But neither Labour or the Tories appear ready to assume a mantle of broad unifiers as they once did.
Badenoch is just not going to win. Never mind being a black woman seeking the votes or the top 10% of racists who live here.
They said on the lunchtime news that he was the most likely to be in the final two. Low key hoping Badenoch wins for the entertainment value.
I didn’t know there was going to be a third Dumb and Dumber.
Well there goes the chance to have a Warhammer 40k fan PM lol
100% tactical voting went on to make sure that cleverly didn’t win.
Jesus Christ, the stories are going to pick the wrong choice. Again
“Lads shall we try not being quite as mental as we have been for the last 14 years, maybe tone it down a little bit?”
“Nah you’re alright”
LOL this morning at breakfast time he was the favourite. “He made a speech! He said “Act Normal!”
– Now, he’s out.
“It’s like picking your favourite carrot out of a pile of vomit.”
The Membership have a track record of picking the shittest candidate. So it’s really anybody’s game from hereon in.
The “Beyond Thunderdome” option could be used..:with the last elected leader of the Conservative Party, Liz Truss, remaining Leader until a new leader is elected . A coronation does not count.
That seems like a huge mistake. Those two might appeal to the weirdos in the conservative membership but they wont do well with the general public.
I mean… As far as surnames go, Cleverly is an oxymoron when you look at the MP’s political record, and Tugendhat sounds like what I do when I’m browsing Xvideos. But somehow they’re much better candidates than what Jenrick or Badenoch would turn out to be.
Now their deranged base will vote for Kimi “no maternity pay” Bad…truly astonishing to witness this party suicide
If Kemi wins then a genuine Farage PM charge looks more and more likely in 2028.
Absolutely despicable that this is the level of political leadership we’re looking at.
of course they knock out the slightly more sensible one of the three, otherwise it wouldn’t be a Tory leadership.
This iteration of the Tory party will be interesting. Looks like they’re not going to be making Cameron-style moves on the centre, especially not with Reform harrassing them on the right. 2029 will be a good test of the belief that Britain’s discerning and pragmatic voters are drawn to the centre.
The two most incompetent options. Neither will make it to the next election as leader. The party will only grow more divided under either of them, and will hardly be the effective and mature opposition a parliamentary democracy requires.
They’re going to do it again they are going to pick the worst candidate available
Jenrick will be Truss 2.0
Oh dear.
I don’t think the phrase, “Choosing the lesser of two evils”, applies with these two.
I don’t like cleverly but he’s clearly the most competent and least crazy one. Guess the Tories haven’t learnt from truss
Labour must not believe their luck.
Lots of criticism aimed at them and then the Tories decide to go with 2 absolute idiots to potentially run their party.
Cleverly would have actually be a good option for them but hey, keep at it.
The Tory party enters its Corbyn years, extreme and unelectable. Will it take them one or two more general election losses before they realise and reform? Will they even last that long?
Genuinely impressive how they managed to narrow it down to the two worst candidates lmao
It’s amazing how the Tories have managed to put forth the two worst candidates for the job as the only choices. It’s almost like they are trying to make themselves even more unpopular than Starmer’s Labour. Might as well retain Sunak if those two idiots are the alternates.
I know talent and decent MPs seem to be entirely absent across a lot of the parties, but it’s actually wild how few the Tories have. To think this is the best they have to offer…
Hahahaha. They will salt the proverbial earth of what is left of the Tory Party. I hope Badenoch wins, they will become and evil little party full of evil little people who will be slowly dying off over the coming 10 years of Labour government.
The UK needs a centre right party but the Tories and Reform aren’t it.
And just like that, you can already hear the champagne corks popping at no.10
Honestly, doesn’t matter, and I don’t care – remember IDS as Selfservative Leader, 2001? or Michael Howard as Selfservative Leader, 2003?
No? Of course not. Because they were irrelevant, just like whoever gets the nod for the next Selfservative Leader.
Classic move to normalise extremes to push right the whole party and politics in general. US has been doing it for the last 15 years, and with it they bring the left to the centre. True left – Corbyn, Sanders – then become an “extremist” option
Is Badenoch the one who said women shouldn’t get maternity pay?
Love this. Tories entering their IDS/Michael Howard era ahead of schedule.
Some interesting takes on here. People seem to forget that for most of the last decade and a half, the Tories have comfortably dismissed Labour in GE after GE without any issue. The tories troubles really began when they booted Johnson out for unpopular and unelected party line replacements and in the face of a cost of living crisis which Labour seem to be doing very little to tackle either.
I’m surprised people think the Tories are dead. People are much less forgiving of Labour and I reckon that when they achieve fairly little by the next election we will see a Tory resurgence. Not my preference, but I think it’s likely
£20 bet whoever wins won’t be leader by next election
Suppose jenrick is the least disliked from my perspective, theirs no like with a Tory though.
Badenoch is a far right populist, famous by gob, say stupid win stupid vote, career obsessed no care for the country, she likes the title not the work, kinda like trump and the uneducated.