The non-MAGA Republicans coming to the realization that Trump had only gotten worse and that this election is for the future of the nation.
Grandpa_No on
I’m not sure what to do with this.
On the one hand, if there’s anything NYT/Siena seems to be able to capture, it’s the opinions of Republicans — even those it calls Democrats. On the other, this poll has been plagued by unlikely results all year…
I guess I can ignore this one, too.
IPA__________Fanatic on
A NYT-Siena poll had Trump winning Florida by 13 points today. I’m gonna hold my breath on this one.
Puzzled_Pain6143 on
Don’t forget to vote straight blue ticket if you’re truly interested in defending democracy!
Slow_Investment_2211 on
I live in ultra conservative Mississippi. I have seen ONE Trump/Vance yard sign so far with less than a month to go. One…
They were everywhere the last couple of elections
ET2-SW on
Explains why the yard sign population is down.
Curium247 on
Harris has run about as brilliant a campaign as one can in 2 months.
TheBestermanBro on
Yeah, I don’t believe this election will be close. Harris has a lead even if the GOP voters fell in line as normal. But there’s a lot of evidence that shows not only will non-MAGA not vote, they might vote for Harris. That’s a loss, a loss, a loss for Trump.
whatzitsgalore on
I’m struggling with their assumption that the national electorate will be +1% R. It’s a shift from the previous poll’s assumption of an R+4 electorate. That seems to account for a building enthusiasm/GOTV gap but still shows an R advantage in turnout. Not necessarily knocking that assumption but curious about the reasoning.
tylagersign on
I’m in central Florida and in the last few weeks I’ve seen lots of republicans for Harris signs. Saw one at the local GOP headquarters but that one was taken down by the next time I drove by
moreesq on
Proportions and prevalence of yard signs are at best a crude indicator of how the presidential vote will result. However, in that regard, the Trump supporters had from late winter to buy their signs or flags. The Harris campaign could only start producing yard signs in late August. When I ordered mine, it took 3 1/2 weeks to arrive so they had a backlog. Thus, comparisons and anecdotes of how frequently people see the respective signs are skewed by these facts.
steelassassin43 on
She was just on The View and said that she is going to have a Republican as one of her cabinet members. We all can probably expect that to be Liz Cheney who has lost favor with the MAGA crowd but for those that are old school republicans who feel abandoned from all of this may find that good news to hear.
Beatthestrings on
I keep seeing headlines that suggest a Kamala blowout. The polls say otherwise. What gives?
GameMusic on
Frum added: “I do think we’re living through a moment like 1968-74 when the parties change who their voters are … we are seeing a certain type of voter with a lot to lose migrating into the Democratic coalition because it offers stability and a certain kind of voter with less to lose and more alienation migrating out of the Democratic coalition because they don’t feel attached enough to the society and are excited by the Republican promise to take more risks with America.”
_awacz on
Ok great, then why is the polling so tight? Never underestimate the power of stupid in this country.
Basic_Quantity_9430 on
The sad thing is that 91% of republicans and 3% of democrats will vote for a man who repeatedly shows that he is totally unfit to be anywhere near the Presidency.
whatlineisitanyway on
What we need to know about that 9% is how many of them voted for Trump in 20′.
echoeco on
…congratulations to all Republicans who free themselves from the Red vs Blue I hate you mentality…we all should want the most qualified and stable (not a felon) individuals leading us/US…political parties may have more voting rights than citizens but moving foward universal ballots and rank voting could help us focus on issues rather than personalities…
The-Spokless-Wheel on
Remember republicans voted against FEMA help
Ron said he ignored several calls from Harris when she was calling to offer aid in the wake of Milton
Why? Because trump told them too just like he told the republicans to vote against the super conservative bipartisan border bill many democrats didn’t like because it was too conservative
Trump did this all so he could use these issues as ammunition and for him to use for his platform
While he and his ilk spread lies propaganda and misinformation/disinformation
Slaterpup17 on
Something’s wrong with these polls. Polls for various subsets of the population all point to Harris leading – in some cases by large margins, and eroding Trump’s lead in places he’s know to be favored, yet national polls and swing state polls show a tight race. How can both be true?
Brains_Are_Weird on
But then how is this not affecting the polls in a meaningful way, or the poll aggregates?
Stunning_Concept_478 on
Fuck you Newsweek.
GrandMoffJenkins on
I never believed that ALL republicans were down with fascism.
theFormerRelic on
Trump fatigue is real. A lot of people who would otherwise be voting R will sit out or vote D
teflong on
With all of this positive news, HOW is this election still projected to be a coin flip?!?
I’m getting nervous in the home stretch. We are not guaranteed a continuation of our liberties and freedoms.
BestWesterChester on
Check out Facebook and Twitter groups “republicans for Harris” and “Arizona republicans for harris”. There are smart, responsible republicans out there who see Trump for what he really is.
And if you know any rational republicans, send them to those groups!
vijay_the_messanger on
Although, her support among magahats has dropped, for some reason 🙂
stefani1034 on
a house in my neighborhood actually took down their trump sign over the weekend
Secret-_Agent420 on
Respect to those that put Nation over political party. I know there’s republicans out there that can see through Trump’s Bull shit and false statements without any proof.
Diligent-Bad-9907 on
The Character and Eligibility of Donald Trump: A Critical Examination.
I can’t help but think they’re over correcting and weighing Trump voters too high.
At least I hope that’s the case.
Specialist_Mouse_418 on
I know a few individuals who will always vote trump, but I also know that he royally pissed off my red voting inlaws in Mississippi with “his” bible. So much so that they aren’t voting.
Loyal-Opposition-USA on
Trump is ruining their party. It would be hilarious if he wasn’t such a threat my family and friends.
gymtrovert1988 on
Who are the 3% of Democrats backing Trump?
Tulsi and RFK Jr?
jrblockquote on
Even if Kamala peels off just 2% of Republicans, she will win big.
Raspberries-Are-Evil on
I sure hope they live in Penn
ResearcherOk7685 on
Trump is just a terrible candidate.
Decent Republicans won’t vote for him. Only his MAGA cultists.
NoonecanknowMiner_24 on
People forget that Trump heavily underperformed in the primaries, even in closed primaries. This might be why.
101ina45 on
“WhY wOuLd ShE cAmPaIgN wItH a ChAnEy!!”
Danysco on
Interesting, but how can you explain that the same poll shows her losing by 13 points in FL? Also, in 2020 at the same time Biden was leading Trump by 10%.
KinkyPaddling on
>It found nine percent of likely voters who describe themselves as Republican plan to back the Democratic candidate in November, up from five percent in the last New York Times/Siena College poll a month earlier. By contrast just three percent of Democratic identifying voters said they will vote for Donald Trump, while 96 percent said they support Harris.
Tragically low numbers, but hopefully enough to swing things for Harris in Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona.
mowotlarx on
I guess some Republicans do want to vote again in the future after all.
JaggerDeSwaggie on
The polling in local elections just came in a lot of battleground states and it’s almost double the figures of the last upset in 2018, 2020 and 2022 swapping Republican candidates for Democrats in deep red states. The maga platform is slowly killing the Republican party and the sooner they move away from maga and rebuild the sooner they will stop losing elections.
Kamala Harris is even showing huge gains in white voters over 50 and double the white college graduate polls compared to Biden in 2020.
Regardless get out there and vote thinking this is a done deal is what got trump in the first place.
MrMongoose on
I’m guessing it doubled from 0.5% to 1%.
Not to be negative – but if this were significant the polls wouldn’t still be a dead heat
As much as I’d love to see a huge shift towards Harris in the final days, I’ve pretty much accepted this is going to be a nail-biter.
Vote. Vote early. And make certain everyone you know is voting as early as possible.
NeitherCook5241 on
The permission structure to leave MAGA is there. Sane republicans can reject Trump and not be alone on an island. They can remain true to their values and still vote for someone who is not in their party of origin, because so many rational people recognize that Trump is an existential threat to democracy.
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The non-MAGA Republicans coming to the realization that Trump had only gotten worse and that this election is for the future of the nation.
I’m not sure what to do with this.
On the one hand, if there’s anything NYT/Siena seems to be able to capture, it’s the opinions of Republicans — even those it calls Democrats. On the other, this poll has been plagued by unlikely results all year…
I guess I can ignore this one, too.
A NYT-Siena poll had Trump winning Florida by 13 points today. I’m gonna hold my breath on this one.
Don’t forget to vote straight blue ticket if you’re truly interested in defending democracy!
I live in ultra conservative Mississippi. I have seen ONE Trump/Vance yard sign so far with less than a month to go. One…
They were everywhere the last couple of elections
Explains why the yard sign population is down.
Harris has run about as brilliant a campaign as one can in 2 months.
Yeah, I don’t believe this election will be close. Harris has a lead even if the GOP voters fell in line as normal. But there’s a lot of evidence that shows not only will non-MAGA not vote, they might vote for Harris. That’s a loss, a loss, a loss for Trump.
I’m struggling with their assumption that the national electorate will be +1% R. It’s a shift from the previous poll’s assumption of an R+4 electorate. That seems to account for a building enthusiasm/GOTV gap but still shows an R advantage in turnout. Not necessarily knocking that assumption but curious about the reasoning.
I’m in central Florida and in the last few weeks I’ve seen lots of republicans for Harris signs. Saw one at the local GOP headquarters but that one was taken down by the next time I drove by
Proportions and prevalence of yard signs are at best a crude indicator of how the presidential vote will result. However, in that regard, the Trump supporters had from late winter to buy their signs or flags. The Harris campaign could only start producing yard signs in late August. When I ordered mine, it took 3 1/2 weeks to arrive so they had a backlog. Thus, comparisons and anecdotes of how frequently people see the respective signs are skewed by these facts.
She was just on The View and said that she is going to have a Republican as one of her cabinet members. We all can probably expect that to be Liz Cheney who has lost favor with the MAGA crowd but for those that are old school republicans who feel abandoned from all of this may find that good news to hear.
I keep seeing headlines that suggest a Kamala blowout. The polls say otherwise. What gives?
Frum added: “I do think we’re living through a moment like 1968-74 when the parties change who their voters are … we are seeing a certain type of voter with a lot to lose migrating into the Democratic coalition because it offers stability and a certain kind of voter with less to lose and more alienation migrating out of the Democratic coalition because they don’t feel attached enough to the society and are excited by the Republican promise to take more risks with America.”
Ok great, then why is the polling so tight? Never underestimate the power of stupid in this country.
The sad thing is that 91% of republicans and 3% of democrats will vote for a man who repeatedly shows that he is totally unfit to be anywhere near the Presidency.
What we need to know about that 9% is how many of them voted for Trump in 20′.
…congratulations to all Republicans who free themselves from the Red vs Blue I hate you mentality…we all should want the most qualified and stable (not a felon) individuals leading us/US…political parties may have more voting rights than citizens but moving foward universal ballots and rank voting could help us focus on issues rather than personalities…
Remember republicans voted against FEMA help
Ron said he ignored several calls from Harris when she was calling to offer aid in the wake of Milton
Why? Because trump told them too just like he told the republicans to vote against the super conservative bipartisan border bill many democrats didn’t like because it was too conservative
Trump did this all so he could use these issues as ammunition and for him to use for his platform
While he and his ilk spread lies propaganda and misinformation/disinformation
Something’s wrong with these polls. Polls for various subsets of the population all point to Harris leading – in some cases by large margins, and eroding Trump’s lead in places he’s know to be favored, yet national polls and swing state polls show a tight race. How can both be true?
But then how is this not affecting the polls in a meaningful way, or the poll aggregates?
Fuck you Newsweek.
I never believed that ALL republicans were down with fascism.
Trump fatigue is real. A lot of people who would otherwise be voting R will sit out or vote D
With all of this positive news, HOW is this election still projected to be a coin flip?!?
I’m getting nervous in the home stretch. We are not guaranteed a continuation of our liberties and freedoms.
Check out Facebook and Twitter groups “republicans for Harris” and “Arizona republicans for harris”. There are smart, responsible republicans out there who see Trump for what he really is.
And if you know any rational republicans, send them to those groups!
Although, her support among magahats has dropped, for some reason 🙂
a house in my neighborhood actually took down their trump sign over the weekend
Respect to those that put Nation over political party. I know there’s republicans out there that can see through Trump’s Bull shit and false statements without any proof.
The Character and Eligibility of Donald Trump: A Critical Examination.
[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/384473246_The_Character_and_Eligibility_of_Donald_Trump_A_Critical_Examination/stats](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/384473246_The_Character_and_Eligibility_of_Donald_Trump_A_Critical_Examination/stats)
All these signs, but the polls are still close.
I can’t help but think they’re over correcting and weighing Trump voters too high.
At least I hope that’s the case.
I know a few individuals who will always vote trump, but I also know that he royally pissed off my red voting inlaws in Mississippi with “his” bible. So much so that they aren’t voting.
Trump is ruining their party. It would be hilarious if he wasn’t such a threat my family and friends.
Who are the 3% of Democrats backing Trump?
Tulsi and RFK Jr?
Even if Kamala peels off just 2% of Republicans, she will win big.
I sure hope they live in Penn
Trump is just a terrible candidate.
Decent Republicans won’t vote for him. Only his MAGA cultists.
People forget that Trump heavily underperformed in the primaries, even in closed primaries. This might be why.
“WhY wOuLd ShE cAmPaIgN wItH a ChAnEy!!”
Interesting, but how can you explain that the same poll shows her losing by 13 points in FL? Also, in 2020 at the same time Biden was leading Trump by 10%.
>It found nine percent of likely voters who describe themselves as Republican plan to back the Democratic candidate in November, up from five percent in the last New York Times/Siena College poll a month earlier. By contrast just three percent of Democratic identifying voters said they will vote for Donald Trump, while 96 percent said they support Harris.
Tragically low numbers, but hopefully enough to swing things for Harris in Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona.
I guess some Republicans do want to vote again in the future after all.
The polling in local elections just came in a lot of battleground states and it’s almost double the figures of the last upset in 2018, 2020 and 2022 swapping Republican candidates for Democrats in deep red states. The maga platform is slowly killing the Republican party and the sooner they move away from maga and rebuild the sooner they will stop losing elections.
Kamala Harris is even showing huge gains in white voters over 50 and double the white college graduate polls compared to Biden in 2020.
Regardless get out there and vote thinking this is a done deal is what got trump in the first place.
I’m guessing it doubled from 0.5% to 1%.
Not to be negative – but if this were significant the polls wouldn’t still be a dead heat
As much as I’d love to see a huge shift towards Harris in the final days, I’ve pretty much accepted this is going to be a nail-biter.
Vote. Vote early. And make certain everyone you know is voting as early as possible.
The permission structure to leave MAGA is there. Sane republicans can reject Trump and not be alone on an island. They can remain true to their values and still vote for someone who is not in their party of origin, because so many rational people recognize that Trump is an existential threat to democracy.