Der Unternehmerverband der Innenstadt fordert eine Kautionsreform, um die öffentliche Sicherheit auf städtischen Straßen wiederherzustellen

TLDR: Businesses in downtown areas across Canada are urging the federal government to reform the bail system and address rising crime, homelessness, and mental health crises, which worsened due to the pandemic. They argue that repeat offenders and inadequate support for vulnerable populations are hurting urban communities and businesses. The International Downtown Association Canada (IDA Canada) is calling for stricter bail conditions for repeat offenders and more funding for homelessness, addiction, and mental health support. Business leaders emphasize that collaborative government action is needed to address these issues effectively.

Look I know 3 strike sentencing is a slippery slope but surely we can agree on a 3 strikes and you lose bail privileges?

And actual enforcement of probation violations would be nice too.

I’m Law Enforcement in the GTA.

I’ll touch base on this because it gets brought up a lot, especially with the homeless basically breaking laws and doing whatever they want.

The reason you rarely see these people arrested is because it’s straight up a waste of time for Police. If we arrest someone we have to do hours of paperwork afterwards, attend court and deal with the liability these drug addicts die of an overdose in cells or in your cruiser.

Our Justice System is such a joke that Law Enforcement across Canada is so demoralized it’s stopped us from being proactive. Everyone we arrest gets released, and once we do go to Court the legal consequences RARELY result in the person going to jail.

No one goes to jail in Canada, if you’re going to jail it’s because you murdered someone, killed someone by some other means or seriously harmed someone somehow.

Lastly, there are no consequences for breaching your conditions of release. I arrested someone a few months ago for breaching their conditions of release (bail). It was their 9th time breaching these conditions, I held them for bail and the next morning the judge released them ON THE SAME CONDITIONS.

Our Justice system is a joke, criminals know it and they abuse it.

In Winnipeg a few years ago, there was a huge issue with people robbing liquor stores. The MLCC came out and made a statement basically saying employees have been instructed to stay out of the way and let it happen so nobody gets hurts. Guess what? That escalated the situation. It came to the point of a group of teenagers robbing a liquor store and got chased by the cops. A teenage girl ended up getting shot.

This could have been a turning point. If the police came out and said: do stupid shit, earn yourself a bullet hole, problem solved. Instead, we now treat every customer as a criminal. You have to show ID to get past the vestibule, which sucks in winter or rainy days. Let’s treat everyone as a criminal, because we don’t have the balls to tell criminals their actions have consequences

Bail reform will not do anything. 60%+ of people in jail are there on bail already. The whole system needs reform.

It’s the lack of consequences to breaching bail conditions that gets me. If you are accused of a crime and waiting trial out on bail, you should be behaving like a saint.

If someone accused of auto theft gets caught stealing cars again while on bail, it should be instant remand. Same thing with breach of conditions. Change the federal laws, change the charter, I don’t care. Keep the repeat Offenders behind bars.

Homeless people that are addicts and suffer from mental problems keeping them on the street don’t need prison. They need help, which is why we need to have institutions to house these people and force them to get better.

To be honest, we should create a Prison+Industry style situation however. Take the work that’s been outsourced to make certain products for industry like the stuff that gets shipped to China and have them built in Canada housed and staffed by prison workers. (But that’s slavery!?!?) No, because they should get paid. However, they should be paid a “prison” wage. Have it at 1$ per hour, then have that 1$ per hour put into certain stock or bond options for that inmate to grow it.

They are paid a wage, they are productive in prison, the prison will pay for itself, if they server time say 10 years by the time they come out of prison they will have a huge nest egg of finance to start a new life after serving their time.

We pull the jobs away from outsourcing.

Yes, this should be regulated to hell and high water. Yes this should be a “PUBLIC” situation since private prisons tend to end up shitty.

Yeah “bail reform” should fix all the problems. You guys seen the mother and child killed in Montreal earlier this week? Surely it must have been done by crackheads who steal lawn gnomes for their encampment no?

Spoiler alert: It wasnt. It was hired muscle that set the housing on fire in the middle of the night. Hired by one of the protagonists in the ongoing feud between organized crime—>street gangs—>realtors over protection rackets and other turfs. Each of these factions has publicly visible members who are treated by the authorities and politicians as esteemed and respected members of society.

All the intentional fires and flooding and other property destruction that these groups have done to eachother over the past few years has come with a death toll and has ruined countless lives. But a vagrant takes a dump on the sidewalk and now we have to throw the book at him and build 10 jails to save this country.

Makes one think if the real problem is he didnt pay protection money for the sidewalk he shit on.