Chris Selley: Justin Trudeaus Schuld an der Wahlreform lässt ihn nur schlechter aussehen – Wir alle wussten, dass die Liberalen die Anhänger des Verhältniswahlrechts schamlos getäuscht haben. Es ist immer noch bemerkenswert, dass er es zugibt

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeaus-electoral-reform-mea-culpa-only-makes-him-look-worse

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  1. CaliperLee62 on

    >*Fifty-two years too late, Justin Trudeau seems to think a bit of humility might do him good. In* [*an hour-long podcast interview last week*](https://www.uncommons.ca/p/justin-trudeau-on-uncommons) *with relatively freethinking Liberal MP Nate Erskine-Smith, the prime minister lamented the way he had handled the electoral reform file. He even posted the clip to his social media, with the caption, “If I could have done one thing different, it’d be this.”*

    >*“I made two big mistakes on this (file),” Trudeau told Erskine-Smith. In order to assuage “some very strong voices in my caucus who were very clear they wanted to at least make an argument for proportional representation (PR),” he said he “left the door open” to that.*

    >*“And that made a whole bunch of people who heard me say, ‘last election (under) first-past-the-post,’ translate that into ‘he’s going to bring in proportional representation,’ which I was … never … going to,” he said.*

    >*Well, no. People didn’t just hear what they wanted to hear.* [*The 2015 platform document itself promised*](https://www.poltext.org/sites/poltext.org/files/plateformesV2/Canada/CAN_PL_2015_LIB_en.pdf) *to “convene an all-party parliamentary committee to review a wide variety of reforms, such as ranked ballots, proportional representation, mandatory voting and online voting.” PR supporters expected their ideas at least to get a fair hearing. They were incredibly naive to do so, but naiveté isn’t a sin. Lying to the naive is a sin.*

    >*Indeed, the most remarkable moment in the interview was when Trudeau admitted his campaign language was deliberately designed to “bring in the Fair Vote (Canada) people” — i.e., the most prominent PR-advocacy group in the country, whose members overwhelmingly vote NDP. Trudeau wanted to purloin those votes, at least partly under false pretences. The results show that it worked.*

  2. CaliperLee62 on

    I’ve noticed recently in the media it is being floated that the NDP could be angling to demand electoral reforming in exchange for continuing to prop up the Trudeau government through 2025.

    Could this whole song and dance be a set up to justify Jagmeet Singh dutifully accepting Justin’s preferred ranked ballot being shoved down his throat? 🤔

  3. zabavnabrzda on

    He regrets not using his majority to force his pet system of ranked ballots on voters. Seriously a new low for the PM. It is very obvious that we voters aren’t served well when election rules are in the hands of the PM to change as he pleases. Its just a giant conflict of interest.

    I think what Fairvote recommends is a reasonable solution: an independent citizens assembly on electoral reform. Leaving ER to politicians has gotten voters nothing.

    Edit: I highly recommend reading [this journal article](https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/7a0ea3_748fcf095b0142c6b8e77a4a372bf94b.pdf) by Canadian Professor Arash Abizadeh which outlines why citizens’ assemblies are better suited to deciding election rules.

  4. Strangely enough, I thought that this admission by Justin Trudeau is one of the most positive things he’s said in a while, in the sense that it made me think a tiny bit more highly of him. It was contrary to his usual narcissistic attitude that he’s right and everybody else is wrong.

  5. He’s not wrong. People support electoral reform, but few people agree on the system that we should have. While I don’t like FPTP, I believe strongly in regional representation. If we went with a pure PR system, a few big cities would completely dictate politics in Canada.

    I don’t know if Ranked Ballot is the way to go, I’d be interested in its potential, but I certainly wouldn’t support any electoral reform that would remove regional representation.

  6. GallitoGaming on

    Of course he wants it now. To give you an example recently in the Toronto St. Paul’s election, the liberals won 40% of the vote to the conservatives 42%. The conservatives get 100% of the say for all of those voters. And that was a heavy liberal riding.

    This will happen to him massively all around Canada. He is going to lose so many seats where 20-30% of voters vote liberal. And will get 0 representation for those seats.

    Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving individual and party. And now he is going to put the finishing touches on the liberal party. Look at Kathleen Wynne and Ontario. Every poll has Doug Ford still ahead easily. And the liberal voters keep asking “why would they vote for Doug Ford?”. Because that’s what a dead party looks like. The stink will take decades to wash out.

  7. At this point I think he may be stupid.

    It’s one thing to do it like he did. But to blatantly admit it is just dumb.

  8. Commercial-Ad7119 on

    His government voted down M-86 earlier this year on a citizens’ assembly on electoral reform…

  9. Small-Ad-7694 on

    Electoral reform should be decided , after serious and impartial work and explanation to the public, via a referendum and ONLY via a referendum.

    It’s not up to ANY individual to get to decide such things.

    Do the work.
    Call the referendum
    Put in place the decision made with the referendum.

    Thats it.

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