Not religion, but ethnicity. Kurds are in the southeast.
Tre-k899 on
It is a major degenerating problem, both in terms of health and intelligence.
jalanajak on
Istanbul, no cousin eloping.
mostafa741 on
It has nothing to do with Islam.
Prudent-Yam5911 on
Wait till you look up Pakistan
Moist_Tutor7838 on
We don’t marry cousins in Kazakhstan, tho being Muslim. It’s not about religion.
Intelligent-Rip-184 on
Kurdish people…
rasnac on
Fact to the matter is it is mostly an economical motive to cousin marriages in rural areas. Poor farming families try to avoid separation of farming lands by inheritance. So they marry cousins to keep the inheritence within the family.
StainedInZurich on
Is it not just a european vs arabic cultural divide seen in the country placed in between those two?
KokoshMaster on
I’m Muslim and I can tell you it is permissible to marry your cousin.
seeasea on
This is a great way to use data visualization manipulate perception of numbers. Using a mix of color shades and different colors to give the impression of vast difference where they are not.
For example, green= good and red= bad in these type of graphics (cultural perception)
Yet the difference between the NE red region (10.35) and middle-south Green region (8.39) are much closer to each other statistically (<2) than the middle-South Green and the middle green (4.82) difference (>4) which is almost as large as the entire amount anyways
HumanTheTree on
How closely related do you need to be in order to be counted in this map? There’s a big difference between siblings and 3rd cousins.
Responsible-Check-92 on
It’s more of a cultural thing than religious thing which many people are not getting. In Pakistan,almost two out of three marriages are between first cousins, whether in Bangladesh, only 6% marriages are happen between first cousins.
In Bangladesh, marrying your cousin is not that good in the eye of the society, people think you’re marrying your cousin because you want to illegally grab your uncle’s wealth.
6969MikeHawk6969 on
Kurds
Playful-Comedian4001 on
They should stop it. Not good for the national IQ score.
FinnBalur1 on
It’s very clear from your map that developed and less tribalistic areas are less likely to have cousin marriage. You already know development and urbanization is the answer. You answered your own question.
lonewalker1992 on
These numbers are bad but not terrible if you contrast them to place like Pakistan where i thinks it above 70% throughout the various regions
Synthesia92 on
One word.
Kurds.
derHusten on
I once read that it is religious, but the other way around. The Christ Church has banned marriage between cousins in order to prevent the formation of clans and large families. in order to strengthen the power of the local priests. Unfortunately I don’t have a source.
talknight2 on
The reasons for this are mostly economical.
The areas of higher cousin marriage are both poorer, i.e. there is more incentive to keep inheritances within the extended family to build up generational wealth, and less urbanized, i.e. there are far fewer options to pick from if you live in a small village compared to a large city.
Probably little to do with Kurds specifically 😉
TynHau on
Marrying the father’s brother’s daughter is known as بنت عم bint ‘amm in Arabic and often considered the ideal bride in rural more tribal regions. In *Türkiye* it’s more of a Kurdish thing
Mavvet on
Rooted in poverty maybe
Otherwise_Access_660 on
It’s not rooted in religion. There’s nothing in religion that tells you to marry your cousin or forbids you from doing it for that matter. It’s a cultural thing. Some cultures do it more than others.
MostMusky69 on
Stop kink shaming
crowkiller263 on
It’s common among Kurdish people, also some uneducated village Turks do it as well, it’s nothing do with religion but mostly for preventing wealth distribituon to outsiders, Its like you have a family business and you don’t want it to be benefited by some stranger just because of marriage relations by law, these people are closed to outer world and only want to be in touch with someone both economically and culturally their kind
humanbananareferee on
Kurds. It’s generally popular in cities where Kurds are the majority. In Western cities, it’s usually Kurds who do this too.
Hellios9 on
It’s “mostly” about religion.
communistagitator on
I had a Palestinian friend who said he disliked this stereotype and that the Quran actually says that you should marry people who are very different than you. Never bothered to look up the verse (or however they’re called)
-_TremoR_- on
Not a Turkish thing in 21st century but Kurdish and most probably Middle Eastern fugitives if they are included.
Ash_Dayne on
I’m not entirely sure it’s a religious thing necessarily. Cousin marriages weren’t that uncommon in the west either until pretty recently, and in more rural places, it happens more often than in urbanised areas.
Different-Drawing912 on
My husband is Turkish. He agrees that’s it’s Kurds
Salty-Watercress2006 on
Why is cousin marriage (if consensual) supposed to be a bad thing?
spagetttti on
ew brother, brother ew
Boomdification on
“I tell you, I won’t live in a town that robs men of the right to marry their cousins!” – Shelbyville Manhattan.
civan02 on
which relatives first second or third generation ? parralel or cross line ?
Icy-Improvement-8380 on
Really I dont know about cousin marriages in Trakya (eastern thrace), this is not a Balkan Turkish tradition nore is it Pomak.
So either this are the Romanlar who live their, because its said they married with their first cousins or it must be other people.
But we in Trakya neither married first cousins nore neighbours. The Bride is allways from another village and another Family, withour blood relations. because our trad, said: The Bride (Gelin) after marriage belong to us the Grooms (Damad) family).
Funnyanduniquename1 on
It’s rooted in poverty.
kawhileopard on
That’s more of a Shelbyville cultural trait.
Xousse on
Not religion directly, but tribalism + inheritance laws. Cousin marriages are desirable to keep land ownership and other rights like water and grazing in familial hands, ie the tribe.
TurkishProletarian on
Oppressed populations are more likely to close themselves. What you see here is about that.
mrjackpot440 on
no. just no. islam has nothing to do with that.
CrackaOwner on
no offense but it’s a lot of kurds doing this
shadrackandthemandem on
I’m tell’n yous! Cousins ain’t kin!
RunAgreeable7905 on
Gotta keep the dragons in the family?
Norwester77 on
It’s not limited to ethnic Turks (or Kurds) or Muslims. As I recall, it was a fairly major plot point in Jeffrey Eugenides’s book *Middlesex*, which is about an ethnically Greek family from Bursa.
BeliWS on
You can see spread of non-Turkic people on the map literally
Maritime_Khan on
As a turk I absolutely am against the division of my country, but good lord every statistic would get better if the kurdish majority regions would separate.
Accomplished_Pea4717 on
Long history of intermarriage in European Royal families
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Not religion, but ethnicity. Kurds are in the southeast.
It is a major degenerating problem, both in terms of health and intelligence.
Istanbul, no cousin eloping.
It has nothing to do with Islam.
Wait till you look up Pakistan
We don’t marry cousins in Kazakhstan, tho being Muslim. It’s not about religion.
Kurdish people…
Fact to the matter is it is mostly an economical motive to cousin marriages in rural areas. Poor farming families try to avoid separation of farming lands by inheritance. So they marry cousins to keep the inheritence within the family.
Is it not just a european vs arabic cultural divide seen in the country placed in between those two?
I’m Muslim and I can tell you it is permissible to marry your cousin.
This is a great way to use data visualization manipulate perception of numbers. Using a mix of color shades and different colors to give the impression of vast difference where they are not.
For example, green= good and red= bad in these type of graphics (cultural perception)
Yet the difference between the NE red region (10.35) and middle-south Green region (8.39) are much closer to each other statistically (<2) than the middle-South Green and the middle green (4.82) difference (>4) which is almost as large as the entire amount anyways
How closely related do you need to be in order to be counted in this map? There’s a big difference between siblings and 3rd cousins.
It’s more of a cultural thing than religious thing which many people are not getting. In Pakistan,almost two out of three marriages are between first cousins, whether in Bangladesh, only 6% marriages are happen between first cousins.
In Bangladesh, marrying your cousin is not that good in the eye of the society, people think you’re marrying your cousin because you want to illegally grab your uncle’s wealth.
Kurds
They should stop it. Not good for the national IQ score.
It’s very clear from your map that developed and less tribalistic areas are less likely to have cousin marriage. You already know development and urbanization is the answer. You answered your own question.
These numbers are bad but not terrible if you contrast them to place like Pakistan where i thinks it above 70% throughout the various regions
One word.
Kurds.
I once read that it is religious, but the other way around. The Christ Church has banned marriage between cousins in order to prevent the formation of clans and large families. in order to strengthen the power of the local priests. Unfortunately I don’t have a source.
The reasons for this are mostly economical.
The areas of higher cousin marriage are both poorer, i.e. there is more incentive to keep inheritances within the extended family to build up generational wealth, and less urbanized, i.e. there are far fewer options to pick from if you live in a small village compared to a large city.
Probably little to do with Kurds specifically 😉
Marrying the father’s brother’s daughter is known as بنت عم bint ‘amm in Arabic and often considered the ideal bride in rural more tribal regions. In *Türkiye* it’s more of a Kurdish thing
Rooted in poverty maybe
It’s not rooted in religion. There’s nothing in religion that tells you to marry your cousin or forbids you from doing it for that matter. It’s a cultural thing. Some cultures do it more than others.
Stop kink shaming
It’s common among Kurdish people, also some uneducated village Turks do it as well, it’s nothing do with religion but mostly for preventing wealth distribituon to outsiders, Its like you have a family business and you don’t want it to be benefited by some stranger just because of marriage relations by law, these people are closed to outer world and only want to be in touch with someone both economically and culturally their kind
Kurds. It’s generally popular in cities where Kurds are the majority. In Western cities, it’s usually Kurds who do this too.
It’s “mostly” about religion.
I had a Palestinian friend who said he disliked this stereotype and that the Quran actually says that you should marry people who are very different than you. Never bothered to look up the verse (or however they’re called)
Not a Turkish thing in 21st century but Kurdish and most probably Middle Eastern fugitives if they are included.
I’m not entirely sure it’s a religious thing necessarily. Cousin marriages weren’t that uncommon in the west either until pretty recently, and in more rural places, it happens more often than in urbanised areas.
My husband is Turkish. He agrees that’s it’s Kurds
Why is cousin marriage (if consensual) supposed to be a bad thing?
ew brother, brother ew
“I tell you, I won’t live in a town that robs men of the right to marry their cousins!” – Shelbyville Manhattan.
which relatives first second or third generation ? parralel or cross line ?
Really I dont know about cousin marriages in Trakya (eastern thrace), this is not a Balkan Turkish tradition nore is it Pomak.
So either this are the Romanlar who live their, because its said they married with their first cousins or it must be other people.
But we in Trakya neither married first cousins nore neighbours. The Bride is allways from another village and another Family, withour blood relations. because our trad, said: The Bride (Gelin) after marriage belong to us the Grooms (Damad) family).
It’s rooted in poverty.
That’s more of a Shelbyville cultural trait.
Not religion directly, but tribalism + inheritance laws. Cousin marriages are desirable to keep land ownership and other rights like water and grazing in familial hands, ie the tribe.
Oppressed populations are more likely to close themselves. What you see here is about that.
no. just no. islam has nothing to do with that.
no offense but it’s a lot of kurds doing this
I’m tell’n yous! Cousins ain’t kin!
Gotta keep the dragons in the family?
It’s not limited to ethnic Turks (or Kurds) or Muslims. As I recall, it was a fairly major plot point in Jeffrey Eugenides’s book *Middlesex*, which is about an ethnically Greek family from Bursa.
You can see spread of non-Turkic people on the map literally
As a turk I absolutely am against the division of my country, but good lord every statistic would get better if the kurdish majority regions would separate.
Long history of intermarriage in European Royal families
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_intermarriage
Not to mention the Habsburg jaw…
Albert Einstein must’ve been a Muslim, because he also married his cousin