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    Sie könnten die EU töten, sagt Frankreich. Nein, das könnten Sie, antwortet Deutschland.


    Sie könnten die EU töten, sagt Frankreich. Nein, das könnten Sie, antwortet Deutschland.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/france-emmanuel-macron-germany-olaf-scholz-europe-global-threats-economy-china-american-protectionism/

    Von sassy_S95

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    45 Comments

    5. nocountryforcoldham on

      And it was russian propaganda turning europeans against each other that could kill eu all along

    6. aquilaPUR on

      seriously, fuck Olaf at this point. Angela at least had the ability to look somewhat competent while fucking things up, with Olaf everyone can see he has no idea what he is even doing

    7. edparadox on

      > You could kill the EU, says France. No, you could, Germany replies.

      So this headline has this subheading:

      > Macron and Scholz clash again over how to counter protectionist America and Chinese power.

      Where do you draw the line?

    8. Berkuts_Lance_Plus on

      “No u”, France retorts.
      “Nuh uh”, Germany rebutts.
      “I know you are, but what am I?”, France counters.

    9. Confident-Winner-444 on

      They already started to kill it when they sold out to China a decade ago and opend the fucking borders for everyone to storm in.

    11. Fred_Blogs on

      Do people in most EU nations want to subordinate more national interest for the interests of the EU as a block?

      Because the politicians involved here are right, if the EU nations aren’t going to sacrifice national interest to work together, the block will not be able to effectively wield political or economic influence on the global stage. And if the general public are hostile to compromising their national interest, then the politicians, who are increasingly fearful of insurgent parties, aren’t going to risk their jobs by backing down.

      In an increasingly turbulent world. Where America is swiftly losing interest in playing the global hegemon and acting as the guarantor of thw world order. This kind of headbutting between states is going to paralyse the block when it needs to take action to survive.

      To be clear, I’m British, so this is all academic to me. I’m honestly just curious if there’s a ground level appetite for a more federalised Europe.

    12. dracovolanses on

      France and Germany talking about killing? Then Europe is already dead.

    16. krgdotbat on

      Basically Macron is upset cause he really wanted to be another Napoleon and make France Great Again. Ironic enough, Napoleon III had its imperial carreer ended by the Prussians.

    20. Maj0r-DeCoverley on

      I don’t understand the problem here. That’s nothing unusual, just the good old left/right dipole making its way into supranational executive politics. If anything that’s even healthy for the EU.

      I would be way more concerned if those two weren’t blaming each other. Plus, let’s face the fact: they’re just two flavors of right wingers working towards the same goal, that dichotomy isn’t exactly Civil War material

    22. DaBIGmeow888 on

      German automobile profits getting dragged down by uncompetitive French automobile interests. Yep, that sounds about right 

    24. OldeFortran77 on

      That’s it. I’m selling my vacation home in Alsace Lorraine.

    26. cspetm on

      Without a real common budget (not 1% of GDP) or a common debt, there will never be a common interest among EU countries. Without a common interest the Union will sadly remain in name only.

    31. cheesemaster_3000 on

      Politico has headlines that sound like tabloid trash. Maybe it’s because they are anti-EU right wing tabloid trash.

    35. preskot on

      >Germany is set to vote against new EU duties on Chinese electric vehicles on Friday, after Scholz intervened to toughen up his country’s opposition to the move.

      Pardon my french, but do the germans voting for Scholz like being pounded from behind? Because that is literally what China is doing with its EVs in Europe.

      The German carmaking business is in a dire state right now, but those that worked in it and were really doing something knew that at least 10 years ago. It’s big news now, because the Chinese finally caught up. You have to be insane to not see this. I’m baffled.

    38. SanTomasdAquin on

      The European Union is doomed. Sad to say but that’s the reality.

    44. Real-Ad-8451 on

      I read the title several times but I wonder if I understood what I read so much it seems absurd.

    45. greenwinwows on

      Ursula should resign and Orban take her place . It’s EU’s only hope

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