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    Nicht nur betriebliche Emissionen, sondern auch Materialien, Transport, Landnutzung und Bau sind mit hohen Kosten verbunden. Ich gebe es nur ungern zu, aber die Franzosen könnten hier doch recht haben

    Nicht nur betriebliche Emissionen, sondern auch Materialien, Transport, Landnutzung und Bau sind mit hohen Kosten verbunden. Ich gebe es nur ungern zu, aber die Franzosen könnten hier doch recht haben

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    Von lit_readit

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    1. lit_readit on

      200 cubic metre, that’s a cube of about 6m by 6m by 6m (~(6^3) cb.m. per YEAR). France metropolitan has an land area of 551,695 sq. km (1sqkm is 1000^2 sq. m). So with deep underground storage tunnels that are only 6m in height, in a MILLION years (first civilisations appeared ~7,000yrs ago) you will fill up only ~0.0062% of metropolitan France’s land area (assume absolutely no overlap in burying, which is stupid).

      calculation:
      (200^(2/3) (sq.m/yr))(1000000yr)/(551695(sq.km)(1000^2 (sq.km/sq.m)))

    2. Dazle123 on

      Why is battery storage listed as an energy source? It does not produce any electricity and should be added to the sources that need batteries as an additional material.

    3. -S-P-E-C-T-R-E- on

      Nuclear clearly beats the rest in safety, material usage, energy production, and overall emissions… a shame that Big Coal/Oil duped the eco-people into hating it so much. We could have had solved this 30-40 years ago…

    4. Own_Kaleidoscope1287 on

      Problem is costs for nuclear energy without subsidies from government. If companies have to pay for insurance and building back old reactors, the energy prices cant compete with solar or wind farms.

    5. JimMaToo on

      Yeah, but France closed more installed capacity of nuclear power than Germany

    6. KermitsPhallus on

      Nuclear waste is stored underground as there is a lot of energy, which was not used and which might be used in future. This is made pretty clear that we still do not have technology yet to suck the energy out of such material and this is reason why it is stored this way for future use, so there might be still some discussion around that, because it is just not “dead” waste. But for sure interesting charts.

      I need to say that I am supporter of nuclear power plant, but the chart strike me a bit … the wind material used really surprised me. I need to say that I am really surprised comparing the sources, because when I think about transportation, even the whole building of nuclear powerplant with all the materials, manpower, electricity to just only keep it working, that the material there is so low. The facility is about 500-1000 workers, which often need to come by car … there is so many variables tho.

    7. literallyavillain on

      Remember, nuclear waste may be radioactive for 100k years, but cadmium (CdTe is the only thin film PVs better than Si) is toxic forever, so we’ll need storage/processing anyway.

    9. boohoo-crymeariver on

      >Hate to admit but the French might have a point here after all

      Pros of nuclear have been known for decades. Why do you need to “admit” it now?

    10. mantellaaurantiaca on

      Big thank you to all German “environmentalists” that pushed hard to shut down nuclear. As of today 40+% of electricity is produced using gas and coal.

      (/s)

    11. KerbalEnginner on

      Thank you for confirming that nuclear is the safest and most ecological!

    12. Tman11S on

      Nuclear remains the best option, given that there’s high standards of safety around it and the environment where the reactor is placed has a low chance of natural disasters. I also wouldn’t place a nuclear plant in a country that’s constantly at war though.

    14. tom_earhart on

      I blame Germany’s greens (w/ support from Russia). Bunch of corrupted populists.

    15. l3pus on

      Where Can you read about the 96% of nuclear waste that can be recycled and reused? It seems incredibly high! And that slide is the only one without a source.

    16. NeilDeCrash on

      Your WHOLE lifetime waste from electricity needs would fit inside of a soda can if your all your needs could be fulfilled with just nuclear energy.

      These calculations were made with older reactors, so the new models can probably do much better.

    17. Bloodsucker_ on

      Geez. This clearly shows how lobbying exists to influence the population. In this case, manipulating the opinion AGAINST green energy.

    18. BaphometWorshipper on

      Yeah but German greens.

      You know what’s funny ? The countries that handle the best on nuclear are China and Russia.

    19. Sunscratch on

      1. Intelligent people learn from other people’s mistakes

      2. Most people learn from their own mistakes

      3. Idiots can’t acknowledge their own mistakes.

    20. DraoDraonir on

      Nuclear ist a Problematik technology in the Future. Because of the climate Change the rivers will Heat Up which will cause Problems in cooling the Power plants

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