Thankfully Russia is not prepared for a large-scale war with NATO.
IncPoof on
Such a nothingburger news. Of course Nato is prepared. would be weird if it was not.
Eatthehamsters69 on
What would that even look like?
Is there any plausible scenario where such a thing doesn’t go nuclear, or that china also doesn’t get direclty involved
TheStripClubHero on
Considering they can’t really handle the situation with Ukraine, there is a 0% chance they don’t get completely folded by NATO.
Anustart15 on
Seems a little disingenuous to act like not having defenses against Russian attacks would matter. If NATO truly my went to war with Russia, there would be nothing left of Russia for anyone to have to worry about defending against
Adavanter_MKI on
lol, remember the headline that the U.S’s conventional capability threatened stability? Because it was TOO capable. Able to address all threats of China and Russia combined supposedly drove them to be more war like.
So… are we too capable or incapable? Me thinks everyone just needs to calm the hell down.
Half-Shark on
Meaning: “it might take 2 months to beat them down instead of 2 weeks”
SmoothlyAbrasive on
Absolute nonsense.
Russia has no answer to NATO stealth aircraft, no balancer against them, and no system that can reliably detect them, leave alone track and interdict them. Its tank forces are in shambles, its accuracy with artillery and missiles is utter dogshit, its troops are largely ineffectual and clueless, and those that aren’t either thing are under equipped and under supplied.
Russia can’t defend itself against counter invasion, it can’t achieve its aims without emptying entire towns of men in first and second world war style human wave attacks, its combined arms strategy…isn’t combined at all, and would be outdated even if it were. It’s naval power has been proven to be utter shit, its air force isn’t worth crap, and its army is pathetic, and only makes headway through numbers, not capacity.
Whereas, NATO has members that contribute some of the most effective human force multipliers in all of military history, including the entirety of the top ten most effective special forces units ever bought together, and the only truly battle hardened ones in all the world, something that Russia cannot counter even if it goes to China or North Korea to get help, because their special forces are made of as much paper as the fucking Spetznaz were, before getting their cards punched by the Ukrainians in the first weeks of this conflict.
All Russia has is a stockpile of nukes it can’t use without getting turned to glass itself. Every other military asset it possesses is on a per unit basis utter shit, and only has numbers going for it, and rapidly shrinking ones at that. If NATO joined Ukraine in actively combatting Russia, the conflict would be a wrap inside of a couple of months, and far less costly than some people seem to think.
phokas on
Russia fights as a meat grinder like WW2. NATO is technologically and logistically superior in every way.
CavemanShakeSpear on
Yeah uh, he would know, he was NATOs Allied Land Commander when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Almost like deactivating an armored brigade combat team stationed in Europe was a bad idea.
DumbestBoy on
That can change, fast. We’re talking about countries, not failing businesses.
HappyToB on
But Russia did. They were trying to get Trump to kill nato
HappyToB on
But Russia did. They were trying to get Trump to kill nato
JustAnother4848 on
A lot of you guys are underestimating the damage Russia would do in even a non nuclear war. They would start shooting down satellites, cutting undersea cables, and launch massive cyber attacks. That would just be the beginning.
Europe would be bombed as well. Ultimately, Russia would probably lose, but it really wouldn’t be good for anyone.
Say North Korea decides to go south at the same time, and America would be spread pretty thin for a while.
Betelgeuse-2024 on
Russia is a circus of an army, people still fear them?
nobadhotdog on
Dennis the menace with a broken slingshot is prepared for a war with Russia
dsmithcc on
I feel like this is a misdirection for some reason
7fingersDeep on
No lies spoken. Most major powers are now aware that they have the last war’s force structure and tactics.
The trick will be if any of them can change and modernize.
idk_wtf_im_hodling on
Idk they are about 10x more prepared than Russia so i think they’ll be ok
Tribalbob on
The best part of a statement like this is it ultimately changes nothing.
Like, sure, it might be true – but does Russia REALLY want to risk calling their hand?
czechrebel33 on
Sounds like bait. Sun Tzu 101
IndyPoker979 on
Did I miss the part where the US is not part of NATO?
Sorry_Economics_4748 on
If NATO went to war, Russia would lose all ability to wage war within my lifetime. Bet.
thissomeotherplace on
Oh yeah? Well Russia wasn’t even prepared for a war with its own neighbor
Hell, even that Wagner weirdo almost managed to invade Moscow
Russia isn’t even prepared for war against its own
Dan-Of-The-Dead on
Russia has lost over half a million (!) troops to date. It’s navy is in a completely deplorable state. Billions lost in vehicles and equipment. Their own mercenaries almost reached Moscow when they frickin rebelled. Have they even managed to repel the Ukrainian incursions into Russia proper yet?
Russia is in no shape or form ready to fight NATO.
JunketAccurate on
I admit I didn’t read the article but the headline sounds stupid. Ukraine is holding its own with what iwould seem to be NATOs surplus and in some cases outdated equipment
Menethea on
This guy has been harping on how inadequate NATO is since his time commanding USAEUR almost 10 years ago. If the invasion of Ukraine shows anything, it’s how NATO‘s overwhelming superiority in men, material and maneuverability would clean Putin‘s clock were he to invade a NATO member – Russia is but a pale shadow of the Soviet Union I experienced in Berlin in the 80s
AffectEconomy6034 on
This is Ben hodges one of the few guys who’s been almost spot on calling every one of russias bluffs from the start that being said he is the former General of united states army Europe so he would be cautious and want to have an overwhelming power differential with russia.
And with that also being said he is a NATO mentor for logistics so I think he is right to call on NATO to improve its military production capabilities and get it on par with our adversaries.
Hautamaki on
I really like Hodges, I hope he gets some kind of role in the Kamala administration
mynamesnotsnuffy on
The Russian army is the third best armed force in Russia, I don’t think we have anything to worry about.
Tobbethedude on
I mean, russia wasent prepared for a little “special military operation” in Ukraine so im not that worried
name__redacted on
I’m going to go out on a limb and say NATO has over prepared for war with Russia, had Russia’s three day invasion of Ukraine instead been an invasion of a NATO country the war would have indeed lasted three days. In three days Russell‘s military would’ve been obliterated.
DramaticWesley on
The U.S. is part of NATO. I assure you the U.S. is prepared to knock out half of Russian assets in a matter of days.
EqualLong143 on
Ha. Russia can’t even handle ukraine.
DiceCubed1460 on
If even just Poland joined the war against Russia, russia would be royally screwed. It would still not be an easy war, but Russia would be pushed out of Ukraine for sure.
I don’t doubt that there are many problems in NATO’s defense aparatus. But even “inadequately prepared,” they could still overrun, outgun, and decimate the russian army with easy if they really needed to.
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Thankfully Russia is not prepared for a large-scale war with NATO.
Such a nothingburger news. Of course Nato is prepared. would be weird if it was not.
What would that even look like?
Is there any plausible scenario where such a thing doesn’t go nuclear, or that china also doesn’t get direclty involved
Considering they can’t really handle the situation with Ukraine, there is a 0% chance they don’t get completely folded by NATO.
Seems a little disingenuous to act like not having defenses against Russian attacks would matter. If NATO truly my went to war with Russia, there would be nothing left of Russia for anyone to have to worry about defending against
lol, remember the headline that the U.S’s conventional capability threatened stability? Because it was TOO capable. Able to address all threats of China and Russia combined supposedly drove them to be more war like.
So… are we too capable or incapable? Me thinks everyone just needs to calm the hell down.
Meaning: “it might take 2 months to beat them down instead of 2 weeks”
Absolute nonsense.
Russia has no answer to NATO stealth aircraft, no balancer against them, and no system that can reliably detect them, leave alone track and interdict them. Its tank forces are in shambles, its accuracy with artillery and missiles is utter dogshit, its troops are largely ineffectual and clueless, and those that aren’t either thing are under equipped and under supplied.
Russia can’t defend itself against counter invasion, it can’t achieve its aims without emptying entire towns of men in first and second world war style human wave attacks, its combined arms strategy…isn’t combined at all, and would be outdated even if it were. It’s naval power has been proven to be utter shit, its air force isn’t worth crap, and its army is pathetic, and only makes headway through numbers, not capacity.
Whereas, NATO has members that contribute some of the most effective human force multipliers in all of military history, including the entirety of the top ten most effective special forces units ever bought together, and the only truly battle hardened ones in all the world, something that Russia cannot counter even if it goes to China or North Korea to get help, because their special forces are made of as much paper as the fucking Spetznaz were, before getting their cards punched by the Ukrainians in the first weeks of this conflict.
All Russia has is a stockpile of nukes it can’t use without getting turned to glass itself. Every other military asset it possesses is on a per unit basis utter shit, and only has numbers going for it, and rapidly shrinking ones at that. If NATO joined Ukraine in actively combatting Russia, the conflict would be a wrap inside of a couple of months, and far less costly than some people seem to think.
Russia fights as a meat grinder like WW2. NATO is technologically and logistically superior in every way.
Yeah uh, he would know, he was NATOs Allied Land Commander when Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Almost like deactivating an armored brigade combat team stationed in Europe was a bad idea.
That can change, fast. We’re talking about countries, not failing businesses.
But Russia did. They were trying to get Trump to kill nato
But Russia did. They were trying to get Trump to kill nato
A lot of you guys are underestimating the damage Russia would do in even a non nuclear war. They would start shooting down satellites, cutting undersea cables, and launch massive cyber attacks. That would just be the beginning.
Europe would be bombed as well. Ultimately, Russia would probably lose, but it really wouldn’t be good for anyone.
Say North Korea decides to go south at the same time, and America would be spread pretty thin for a while.
Russia is a circus of an army, people still fear them?
Dennis the menace with a broken slingshot is prepared for a war with Russia
I feel like this is a misdirection for some reason
No lies spoken. Most major powers are now aware that they have the last war’s force structure and tactics.
The trick will be if any of them can change and modernize.
Idk they are about 10x more prepared than Russia so i think they’ll be ok
The best part of a statement like this is it ultimately changes nothing.
Like, sure, it might be true – but does Russia REALLY want to risk calling their hand?
Sounds like bait. Sun Tzu 101
Did I miss the part where the US is not part of NATO?
If NATO went to war, Russia would lose all ability to wage war within my lifetime. Bet.
Oh yeah? Well Russia wasn’t even prepared for a war with its own neighbor
Hell, even that Wagner weirdo almost managed to invade Moscow
Russia isn’t even prepared for war against its own
Russia has lost over half a million (!) troops to date. It’s navy is in a completely deplorable state. Billions lost in vehicles and equipment. Their own mercenaries almost reached Moscow when they frickin rebelled. Have they even managed to repel the Ukrainian incursions into Russia proper yet?
Russia is in no shape or form ready to fight NATO.
I admit I didn’t read the article but the headline sounds stupid. Ukraine is holding its own with what iwould seem to be NATOs surplus and in some cases outdated equipment
This guy has been harping on how inadequate NATO is since his time commanding USAEUR almost 10 years ago. If the invasion of Ukraine shows anything, it’s how NATO‘s overwhelming superiority in men, material and maneuverability would clean Putin‘s clock were he to invade a NATO member – Russia is but a pale shadow of the Soviet Union I experienced in Berlin in the 80s
This is Ben hodges one of the few guys who’s been almost spot on calling every one of russias bluffs from the start that being said he is the former General of united states army Europe so he would be cautious and want to have an overwhelming power differential with russia.
And with that also being said he is a NATO mentor for logistics so I think he is right to call on NATO to improve its military production capabilities and get it on par with our adversaries.
I really like Hodges, I hope he gets some kind of role in the Kamala administration
The Russian army is the third best armed force in Russia, I don’t think we have anything to worry about.
I mean, russia wasent prepared for a little “special military operation” in Ukraine so im not that worried
I’m going to go out on a limb and say NATO has over prepared for war with Russia, had Russia’s three day invasion of Ukraine instead been an invasion of a NATO country the war would have indeed lasted three days. In three days Russell‘s military would’ve been obliterated.
The U.S. is part of NATO. I assure you the U.S. is prepared to knock out half of Russian assets in a matter of days.
Ha. Russia can’t even handle ukraine.
If even just Poland joined the war against Russia, russia would be royally screwed. It would still not be an easy war, but Russia would be pushed out of Ukraine for sure.
I don’t doubt that there are many problems in NATO’s defense aparatus. But even “inadequately prepared,” they could still overrun, outgun, and decimate the russian army with easy if they really needed to.