Vance behauptet, Trump habe Obamacare „gerettet“. Trump hat versucht, es zu töten, und ist gescheitert.

Thanks for the late fact check, NBC. That was one of the most blatant lies of the debate.

Vance blatantly lied. He repeatedly and blatantly lied.

Edit: Also, he seems to be blatantly ignorant of the actual authority and duties of the VP role that he is vying for.

I really wish Walz had pushed back harder here. He led with it when he talked about the role McCain played in keeping the ACA alive, but he should have just gone back again and again to what Trump ACTUALLY did. Instead, Vance got away with pitching Trump as some sort of healthcare savior.

I think walz did a good job at dispelling the gaslighting. What Walz said is easily rememberable and easy to look up.

Hopefully people will think twice.

It’s not true that Vance and Trump will make ACA better. I hope they realize that.

They took away RvW they will certainly gut the ACA. It’s what they tried to do last time on day 1. Would have worked if not for McCain. A hero Republican if there ever was one.

I think McCain voted his conscience because he was dying. He had nothing to lose.

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As a type 1 diabetic, John McCain saved the ACA and saved my life

Notice the confession here —

Trump “salvaged” Obamacare….He’s not owning they tried to kill it. He’s trying to say they saved it and that’s a good thing.

Notice the pivot. Republicans know healthcare is a their cyanide pill the way the border is for Dems.

Like that scene in the Sorcerer’s Stone where Voldemort can’t touch Harry without burning. They can’t kill it, or they’d never get elected again.

So NOW the pivot is “We’re improving it”

Vance is dr«ight in a peculiar way!

The best thing John McCain ever did was be the deciding vote to keep it. 

Such a simple fact check as a roaring flaming lie, but our media is afraid to print “VANCE LIES ABOUT TRUMP’S HEALTH CARE PLAN” 

Bigly liar

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jd-vance/vance-falsely-says-trump-salvaged-obamacare-program-tried-repeal-rcna173568) reduced by 70%. (I’m a bot)
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> Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance claimed Tuesday night – in contradiction of history – that his running mate, former President Donald Trump, "Salvaged Obamacare," the health insurance program that Trump tried to kill.

> "And I think you can make a really good argument that it salvaged Obamacare, which was doing disastrously until Donald Trump came along. I think this is an important point about President Trump."When Obamacare was crushing under the weight of its own regulatory burden and health care costs, Donald Trump could have destroyed the program," Vance added.

> After six years of GOP calls to repeal the law, Trump promised during his 2016 campaign that he would kill the law "very, very quickly.

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Thanks, McCain.

Thanks to no fact checking (or almost no fact checking) it was indeed just a lie-athon on Vance’s part and Walz had to play catchup. Sounds like he did a decent job after a rough start, but unfortunately Democrats have to super-perform while Republicans just have to lie with a straight enough face and with as even a tone as possible for the average “undecided”. Doubt this moved the needle much either way.

Liars lie

I heard him repeating this during the debate and was wondering what the absolute F he was talking about.

It became a bit clearer later on… I’m pretty sure Vance meant that Trump took away the requirement that American youth purchase healthcare. Hopefully the rest of you recall this detail: that people were penalized at tax time if they didn’t purchase an ACA plan if they didn’t have employer-sponsored health insurance, Trump took away the penalty.

Somehow, Vance is claiming that that helped the ACA be economically viable, when it did the exact opposite; it took money away from being able to insure everyone.

This is what I find so fucking infuriating. This wasn’t that long ago. I was there. The only reason ACA survived is because of John fucking McCain. I know because I saw Mitch McConnell’s fucking turtle ass disappointed face when McCain voted no. Don’t fucking tell me Trump saved the ACA. Who the fuck are you to tell me what I fucking saw and lived through? Fucking history changers fuck you

Thought Walz did well, but him failing to strongly counter blatant lies like this one was his biggest misstep.