Russland sichert sich mit der Einnahme der ukrainischen Hochburg Stadt Wuhledar den größten Sieg seit Februar

congrats ruzzia, evil does win.

This is literally the most important article that’s been posted to this sub today. It is accordingly being either ignored or downvoted. What is WRONG with you people?

Let. Ukraine. Strike. Russia

So another 2 years to take Bohoyavlenka?

I posted that verbatim before, but I think it cannot hurt to post it again.

The following perspectives have to be kept in mind at all times:

Russian strategic objectives in relation to the following resources to achieve those objectives:

Time, manpower, ammo, fuel, money, tanks, armored vehicles, etc.

Then that has to be set in relation to the actual objective taken (Vulhedar is important, and losing it is obviously not advantageous)

Puck Nielsen

1) It is normal and to be expected to lose terrain during defensive (defense in depth) operations. You want to maximize the losses for the enemy, but you will give away territory. Moving backward on the defense is normal. We could discuss the pace of this withdrawal.

2) There is a lot of urban fighting ahead for Russia. There are more cities like that in the Donbas and the South. Much larger settlements than this one, and to achieve their lofty goals, is very unlikely due to the attrition suffered thus far.

3) Even if Russia manages to occupy all of the Donbas. That event would not decide the entire war. Russia has more goals than just Donetsk.

At the current pace, Russia will need years to take the Donbas region. Taking the Donbas will not end the war.

The strategic air campaign against Russia has created a shortage of air defense systems. Ukrainian strikes will have a bigger impact over time.

Ukraine does not have to kick Russia back and cannot do so unless the West engages directly.

What Ukraine can do is causing problems, so many problems that Russia will ultimately collapse under the weight of all of these problems.

The overall strategic and political situation for Ukraine is better than it was when the war started or even last year.

Ukraine’s allies must support the strategy to hit Russia wherever it can and to create more problems than Russia can handle.

A multi factor strategy involving sabotage, drones, missiles, infantry, air assets, cyberwar, info war, economic war, destruction of infrastructure.

The kinetic war is one part of a much larger and more complex war effort that goes way beyond the Donbas or who takes which small town.

The when and how and other factors are important.

For example, even with the fall of Vulhedar, the mud season is incoming, so the question remains, has Russia the resources to exploit this victory, take Pokrovsk and take back Kursk within a time frame that enables a larger breakthrough?

I doubt that as time is running out.

Russia has celebrated a lot of phyrric victories and due to the enormous amounts of resources they had to expend to take Vulhedar at last, Russia should keep their celebration low key and we must understand that Ukraine needs more support and a larger effort from our side, as Russia is willing to suicide its entire military and economy into this project and that might be the end of Ukraine as a collateral damage unless we actively do more to prevent that.

None of these aspects means that loss is good. We just should always keep the short-term tactical, the operational, and the bigger strategic and socio-economic realities in mind that the war operates in. Especially logistics. (Losing Vulhedar is bad for Ukraine’s logistics. However, given the time and resources Russia needed to use to achieve that victory, I recommend to let some more time pass and then we will see what that victory is really worth in terms of achieving Russia’s strategic objectives.

This year I’ve started to believe that Ukraine winning won’t happen in the front lines. Striking inside Russia, oil refineries, Kursk, etc. along with sanctions and the Russian economy hitting a tipping point next year seem to me to be opening a path for victory. While this news is terrible and they’ll claim a moral victory, so long as they’ve inflicted near maximum possible casualties on the Russians while minimizing Ukrainian casualties, giving up land is unavoidable. The destruction of these towns and the Ukrainians lost to this war are the only things we should pay attention to because outlasting Russia in this war of attrition is in my opinion the bright light at the end of this horrific tunnel. Once that happens it won’t matter so much whether they get another 10 or 20 km so long as it continues to be a slow crawl. Russia’s front lines are just begging for an implosion but it will take time, how much is anyone’s guess.

It’s war pretty sure Ukraine  took it from the Russians once they in the future can do it again russia seems to be struggling to get good quality of equipment on the field Ukraines not going to be able to win by meat grinding this so they do what they can and bleed them and hopefully the West can pull its fucking finger out and get them what they need to bleed them harder and take their home back and have peace