Why are they hating on Putin for doing it yet wanting to do the same?
ScourgeOfGod420 on
Please ban them, they would gain so many supporters from a ban. I would love that shit bro.
2lon2dip on
Banning a political party does not make the people who vote for it to disappear. Better take a look in the mirror and evaluate what you can do different, so people will vote for you again.
MrCheeseman2022 on
Afd is just another acronym for Nazi
corium_2002 on
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Few-Bar-7752 on
If we cannot win in fair elections against them, ban them.
Shot-Total-2575 on
to ban facists is the reason it’s even allowed to ban parties at all.
Puffin_fan on
That is absurd.
The problems of the hard right wing in Europe are creations of the control of the states by the central banks.
Remove the power of the central banks, and the hard right wing will wither away with no further control on the media
there is so little real awareness of the influence that central banks have not only with respect to tariffs and civil penalties, but also with respect to IT monopolies
Sam-Bernard on
Would suggest anyone that is seriously interested on the topic to read about the ‘paradox of tolerance’
tohava on
The greatest mistake of the 20th century was absolute belief in the leader. I believe the greatest of mistake the 21st century is absolute belief in freedom. It seems like other people who share my beliefs want to prevent this mistake from happening.
Good for them, I’d rather take a limited democracy now over a return of the beginning of the 20th century.
SgtDavidez on
The wound will only get nastier if you treat the symptom but not the cause. Would be a dumb move.
CarrotCake2342 on
votes to ban a party but no votes to bring back the safety and peace they once enjoyed. talk about serious retardation…
Didsterchap11 on
I mean there is a much more old fashioned way of managing the far right in Germany that we pioneered in the 40s…
DooblusDooizfor on
If you can’t beat them, ban them.
Agreeable_Fig_3705 on
What is Afd’s stance on Russia? I am not German
zRywii on
Radical, mass party, banned – recipe to civil war. Party can be disolved people would stay and they will be angry. Such a mess
Happy-Bad-7226 on
> Last Thursday, AfD politician Jürgen Treutler, by virtue of being the parliament’s oldest member at 73, was entitled to chair the first session of the new legislative period. Treutler performed this duty by refusing to allow motions to be passed and votes to be taken, essentially blocking the center-right Christian Democrats (CDU) and other parties from nominating a candidate for the speaker’s job.
Can any German explain the significance of this? Is there any precedent to blocking motions and votes? Why would the AfD do that considering it seems only to legitimise claims that they are anti-democratic?
JuGGer4242 on
Haha yes, that’ll do it.
Northern_North2 on
It’s shit like this that kinda makes me hope they win just out of spite.
VarmKartoffelsalat on
There is a reason people vote for them…. that reason won’t go away just because you ban them.
We had the same issue in Denmark many years ago. Our far right grew out if issues on immigration, on top of that they appealed to the elderly part of the population with a lot of waving Dannebrog and “everything were better in the old days” and better care for retired people.
So, some sort of combination of socialist and nationalistic party.
And since none of the other parties kept disregarding the issues, they grew. But besides people who were tired of the old parties that did nothing….. there was also the extremist riff-raff, though the party in Denmark has always tried to suppress that part of it.
After a few good elections, the other parties caught on, and a harsher line towards illegal immigration, or immigrants in general (especially when Muslim or African) has been adapted by almost all parties. Making people lose interest in the far right party.
One election, they had the opportunity to join into a government, but they elected not to….. felt they had more influence as opposition….. that made people really lose faith in them.
this is just plain dumb. Change the policy instead of banning political parties.
anonmarac on
“democracy”
Enginseer68 on
Are people this dumb?
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Ron1984k on
At some point it leads to no voting at all as this is the same as saying “people are to dumb to vote for the ‘right’ party”.
TSllama on
Seeing how an actual full-blown Nazi party just won in Austria, I think it’s high time similar parties get banned around the world.
Vaestmannaeyjar on
The nazis weren’t dealt with just by banning the party and its subsidiaries (SS, Gestapo etc). they were also dealt with by removing the leaders from the political scene. Since the death penalty is now not an option, prison for life is a suitable alternative for all far right proponents in Germany, France, Italy and others. Remember the Nuremberg trial brought us 60 years of relief from fascism. We should have one such trial every 50 years or so, to make sure what happened doesn’t happen again, ever.
b00c on
other parties should pay more attention to immigration. Otherwise stupid racist fucks will get to govern and that won’t end up well.
Think_Lobster_7912 on
Not happening.
Scalage89 on
I though this sub would be pissy about this
And I was right
miku_dominos on
Address the issues why people vote for these parties first. Banning them will just confirm to them that the mainstream parties won’t listen to them and radicalise them further.
BornaBorski on
How democratic! 💩
This will definitely solve the problem!🤡
YungLandi on
The call is about wether the far right party AfD is legaly acting according to the German constitution. or not. If there is a violation of the laws by the AfD a ban will be taken into consideration. Please Remember: Members of the party express their xeno- and homophobic mindset openly.
ljstens22 on
Setting the precedent to ban parties is a bad road down to interfering with democracy. That’s opening Pandora’s box. If a party is shit, it should be easy to beat them in elections.
StrengthToBreak on
You must ban AfD, because if they ever came to power they might do tyrannical, anti-democratic things like banning other political parties. /s
AfD isn’t the real problem. The problem is that out of touch technocrats in Germany simply don’t want to deal with the reality of democracy: that even people who you think are stupid or immoral are entitled to be heard and to be reflected in your policies.
ItalianMik3 on
So people fearing the “far right” or fascism, are now calling for the ban of a political party they disagree with…? Sounds a little fascist to me.
BloodySister69 on
Gonna vote for the actual nazi party then if they ban the AfD, at that point it doesn’t matter anymore.
ProudMount on
Long live democracy!
Objective_Ad_9581 on
Im with the jew, with a third of the votes the problem with this party is not to ban or not. But where is german society going with so many in favor of the extremist.
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“We are losing, ban the opposition!”
“Democrats” wanting to ban the opposition?
Why are they hating on Putin for doing it yet wanting to do the same?
Please ban them, they would gain so many supporters from a ban. I would love that shit bro.
Banning a political party does not make the people who vote for it to disappear. Better take a look in the mirror and evaluate what you can do different, so people will vote for you again.
Afd is just another acronym for Nazi
👍
If we cannot win in fair elections against them, ban them.
to ban facists is the reason it’s even allowed to ban parties at all.
That is absurd.
The problems of the hard right wing in Europe are creations of the control of the states by the central banks.
Remove the power of the central banks, and the hard right wing will wither away with no further control on the media
there is so little real awareness of the influence that central banks have not only with respect to tariffs and civil penalties, but also with respect to IT monopolies
Would suggest anyone that is seriously interested on the topic to read about the ‘paradox of tolerance’
The greatest mistake of the 20th century was absolute belief in the leader. I believe the greatest of mistake the 21st century is absolute belief in freedom. It seems like other people who share my beliefs want to prevent this mistake from happening.
Good for them, I’d rather take a limited democracy now over a return of the beginning of the 20th century.
The wound will only get nastier if you treat the symptom but not the cause. Would be a dumb move.
votes to ban a party but no votes to bring back the safety and peace they once enjoyed. talk about serious retardation…
I mean there is a much more old fashioned way of managing the far right in Germany that we pioneered in the 40s…
If you can’t beat them, ban them.
What is Afd’s stance on Russia? I am not German
Radical, mass party, banned – recipe to civil war. Party can be disolved people would stay and they will be angry. Such a mess
> Last Thursday, AfD politician Jürgen Treutler, by virtue of being the parliament’s oldest member at 73, was entitled to chair the first session of the new legislative period. Treutler performed this duty by refusing to allow motions to be passed and votes to be taken, essentially blocking the center-right Christian Democrats (CDU) and other parties from nominating a candidate for the speaker’s job.
Can any German explain the significance of this? Is there any precedent to blocking motions and votes? Why would the AfD do that considering it seems only to legitimise claims that they are anti-democratic?
Haha yes, that’ll do it.
It’s shit like this that kinda makes me hope they win just out of spite.
There is a reason people vote for them…. that reason won’t go away just because you ban them.
We had the same issue in Denmark many years ago. Our far right grew out if issues on immigration, on top of that they appealed to the elderly part of the population with a lot of waving Dannebrog and “everything were better in the old days” and better care for retired people.
So, some sort of combination of socialist and nationalistic party.
And since none of the other parties kept disregarding the issues, they grew. But besides people who were tired of the old parties that did nothing….. there was also the extremist riff-raff, though the party in Denmark has always tried to suppress that part of it.
After a few good elections, the other parties caught on, and a harsher line towards illegal immigration, or immigrants in general (especially when Muslim or African) has been adapted by almost all parties. Making people lose interest in the far right party.
One election, they had the opportunity to join into a government, but they elected not to….. felt they had more influence as opposition….. that made people really lose faith in them.
Maybe there should be an EU wide ban on parties whose leaders [accept funding and talking points from Russia](https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-mep-maximilian-krah-alternative-for-germany-afd-russia-china-payments-spying/).
Wish Austria could do the same… 😢
this is just plain dumb. Change the policy instead of banning political parties.
“democracy”
Are people this dumb?
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At some point it leads to no voting at all as this is the same as saying “people are to dumb to vote for the ‘right’ party”.
Seeing how an actual full-blown Nazi party just won in Austria, I think it’s high time similar parties get banned around the world.
The nazis weren’t dealt with just by banning the party and its subsidiaries (SS, Gestapo etc). they were also dealt with by removing the leaders from the political scene. Since the death penalty is now not an option, prison for life is a suitable alternative for all far right proponents in Germany, France, Italy and others. Remember the Nuremberg trial brought us 60 years of relief from fascism. We should have one such trial every 50 years or so, to make sure what happened doesn’t happen again, ever.
other parties should pay more attention to immigration. Otherwise stupid racist fucks will get to govern and that won’t end up well.
Not happening.
I though this sub would be pissy about this
And I was right
Address the issues why people vote for these parties first. Banning them will just confirm to them that the mainstream parties won’t listen to them and radicalise them further.
How democratic! 💩
This will definitely solve the problem!🤡
The call is about wether the far right party AfD is legaly acting according to the German constitution. or not. If there is a violation of the laws by the AfD a ban will be taken into consideration. Please Remember: Members of the party express their xeno- and homophobic mindset openly.
Setting the precedent to ban parties is a bad road down to interfering with democracy. That’s opening Pandora’s box. If a party is shit, it should be easy to beat them in elections.
You must ban AfD, because if they ever came to power they might do tyrannical, anti-democratic things like banning other political parties. /s
AfD isn’t the real problem. The problem is that out of touch technocrats in Germany simply don’t want to deal with the reality of democracy: that even people who you think are stupid or immoral are entitled to be heard and to be reflected in your policies.
So people fearing the “far right” or fascism, are now calling for the ban of a political party they disagree with…? Sounds a little fascist to me.
Gonna vote for the actual nazi party then if they ban the AfD, at that point it doesn’t matter anymore.
Long live democracy!
Im with the jew, with a third of the votes the problem with this party is not to ban or not. But where is german society going with so many in favor of the extremist.