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There is a difference between satisfied with a government and submissive to a government out of fear.
This sounds a lot like a propaganda piece from Russia. I wonder how much is true?
Russians don’t do politics and have long resigned themselves to their fate, so nothing to feel dissatisfied about.
>Why do Russians appear so satisfied despite the war in Ukraine?
Because in 2008 year West created policy “WMD-countries cannot lose” and sticks to it. Despite the fact that such policy has become the main source of global negative processes and escalations.
Because despite all western theater, it still sees Chinese ally and WMD-proliferator as potential ally against China and WMD-proliferation. And enormously help it by political, economic, even ideological, resources.
How do you know the person asking you “how you feel about the government” is *from the government*? Or that images of you won’t be traced back to your doorstep. The answer to the second is pretty high.
TL; DR — It’s an ill wind that blows nobody good; war always creates opportunities for some people and those people are prospering despite the overall precarious economic situation.
I didn’t see the author mention the cash problem that is inherent in short-term economic stimulus of the kind he is talking about — the money has to come from somewhere especially when foreign economic integration has been so severely curtailed. As far as I have been able to tell, most foreign analysts are *not* actually surprised by this — despite what this author claims — but rather understand quite well that Putin is achieving this result by drawing down the nation’s hard currency reserves. Which are now closing in on zero.
And also possibly Putin’s own personal wealth, which is hard to count but probably exceeds the total wealth of many small countries.
Anyway the other reason, which the author also doesn’t mention, is that Russians are acculturated to see the kind of war Putin is fighting as a success. For reasons that I still don’t completely understand, Russians of this mentality get excited when massive numbers of their own forces are lost. And when large amounts of their own armaments are destroyed or squandered.
Of course not every Russian is like this, but the ones that aren’t all despise Putin and have left Putin’s Russia far behind them. So they are nowhere in view.
It’s almost like some kind of conspicuously wasteful display, of the kind that people use to show off wealth. Except it’s blood and human lives.
When asked if they’re dissatisfied, I would assume most of them have windows they don’t want to fall out of.
It’s because until recently, they have been relatively unaffected by it. This is where Zelensky’s plan to bring the war onto Russian territory is a good idea.
There are no citizens anymore, as they lost control to Putin. They are just his serfs.
You know the old joke.
* How are things, uncle Pavel?
* Well, I can’t complain.
They are quick to make fun of someone’s worse of situation. As long as Russia keeps killing Ukrainians, them ruskies will be proud someone’s getting to feel the Russian “might”
It’s because the west is afraid of Russian nuclear weapons
Maybe because being publicly dissatisfied with government might get them killed or jailed for longer than child rapists.
Crab mentality.
Because most of the week they don’t give a shit. Russia is permanently at some sort of war all the time, either hot or cold. Their government doesn’t let people chill, life of average russian must be a struggle and he must know that enemies are everywhere, inside and outside.
Wait till the inflation really hits the fan
Because life hasn’t changed much, except for obvious things like companies leaving Russia. It’s almost that easy
The same reason so many Americans believe Portland and Minneapolis were burnt to the ground in 2020: isolation and propaganda as your only news.
A Russian babushka Vera in a 1420 interview had an interesting perspective to share:
“It cannot be called elections, It’s nonsense. The results are already known. Why are you being such a baby? It has been going on for over 20 years. The regime won’t let Dumtsova participate because they already know the outcome! What’s the point of election if it is already known that he will rule for another six years! Everyone already knows the results. Are our people so idiotic? So slave like? I don’t understand why people tolerate this. Why do people think this is an election. How is this an election?! The results are in, the winner is already known.
1420:
Are the authorities really not letting the opposition into the elections?
Vera:
Gosh! It’s clear!
Our people are just as dumb and slavish as possible. People were serfs and now they are slaves. Why is there a war going on? Because people are silent! Our writer Pushkin said 200 years ago that the people are silent! People will keep quiet and tolerate, and once the famine comes, they will still tolerate it. I am no longer blaming Putin, but our people who allow themselves to be bullied. People are allowing it because they are completely stupid!
People only want to eat, sleep, drink vodka, have a car, and that’s it. A disgrace!
Disgrace!!
“Russians are the greatest and the best.”
What the hell are they talking about?!
Disgusting people!
The more I learn about this country, the more I hate it!
1420: Tell me, would pluralism of opinions be useful in our country?
Vera:
What pluralism, young man, have you looked at our TV programs? Have you seen the pluralism there?!
These are such insolent people! They are being paid to deceive the population!
Our nation is already insane and stupid, and they are dumbing it down even more. Just look at them! What the hell are they talking about? People are dying in this war!
1420: Is there any opposition in Russia at all?
Vera:
What do you mean? The opposition was nailed a long time ago! In 2012, there was one last protest of the opposition, and that was the end of that. No opposition after that.
People are imprisoned for expressing their opinions. What opposition?! Zero.
How much longer is this going to go on!? Why are the young people silent!?
Are they really enjoying this? Can’t they see what is going on? It’s a nightmare! I am 83 years old, and I was unhappy with the Soviet regime, but there was no such ugliness that there is now! At least back then, there was some kind of hope for some kind of future. At least apartments were given out then. That was at least something.
You can’t be a ruler for over 20 years. His vision is already completely blurred!! Everyone lies to him an and he goes like (makes a pejorative facial expression)
I hate to look at him, I don’t want to see him! 20 years in power, no shame, no conscience! He is a bloody bastard.” Vera Ivanovna. What a brave elderly lady
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h_LMdoCuSRM&si=1EBPq7tRm8fZbKJb
“Our people are slaves. First, they were serfs. Now, they are slaves.
Interview 1420
I think you will find it hard to disagree with this Russian lady. She speaks the truth and uses harsh language, yes. But is she wrong?
There is always something we can do, and ultimately, the Russians themselves will have to fight this regime, as their own regime is the largest danger to Russian lives. Just ducking away in fear, emboldened this man in the first place. However, at this stage, protests are useless, Vaclav havel said it well. There comes a time when only armed resistance against tyranny will work, and Russia is at this stage.
Freedom is not for free, but Russia’s history never offered a valuable lesson. This lesson is, that death is better than bondage. What would the Ukrainians say? Cowards, that is what they would say about the Russians. Ukrainians are willing to die for liberty, and therefore, it will never perish in Ukraine. What are the Russians dying for? The sick delusions of an old fool.
Therefore, who is guilty and who is not that is not for us to decide. We won’t play jury, judge, and executioner. Responsible though, yes, all Russian adults are responsible by association. The Russian children are victims. The adults must take responsibility and understand that Putin is as much Russian as Pushkin.
For example, if my sister commits a crime, I am not guilty of this crime, but still, she is part of the family. Therefore, it will reflect badly on me to some extent by association.
Putin has made the Russians free, of freedom and responsibility, and there is a total lack of it in Russia. The vast majority of Russians cannot fathom that Ukraine would refuse that gift.
The civilised world cannot offer Russia an umpteenth chance. To regain, our trust will take decades. Russia must repent and accept the blame for these war crimes. I don’t see that happening. Russia will continue to demand special treatment for their barbaric behavior. We won’t ever offer such special treatment ever again.
Propaganda. The line about deliveries by autonomous bots was especially silly.
Elsewhere in the media today there were stories about a Kremlin event to combat the birth rate, which has fallen to its lowest ever level as of this year. There might be Russians confident in Russia’s future, but seems they’re not to be found in the maternity wards.
Have you seen people that still think that Trump won 2020 and the Jan 6 was a tourist visit? Blame media
Ignorance is bliss.
Russia has become very, very efficient at crushing rebellions. It’s what long-time Dictators do. If you crush the percentage of the population that is brave enough to encourage rebellion, everybody else falls in line. Fear is no longer fear, it is just the norm.
There is no ‘The opposition is getting too loud’. That’s something we lucky buggers with enough freedom to believe in freedom thought up. It doesn’t matter if it’s 1000 people or 1 person. There’s not a second of complacency when it comes to your own people. You crush it STRAIGHT AWAY.
That’s why Discord is being banned. Gaming forums? Hell naw. These are boards where young people from around the world meet and discuss freely in a friendly manner and FUCK HELL THAT AIN’T GONNA FLY IN RUSSIA.
Sheep look quite content on their way to the slaughterhouse. At least they don’t look any different.
They have been very careful to conduct the war in a way that the population can live with. See signup bonuses instead of mobilization.
Lots and lots of propaganda and a dictatorship for a government.
It’s arrogance more than anything. Russians are smug and ignorant hypocrites.
Amazing to watch The Hill (publication) get captured by Russian Intelligence over the decades. I remember the print edition years ago, published by sincere and professional journalists.
Because talking bad about the state in Russia is a crime. They literally cannot or they’ll get arrested
Cos they will be locked up or murdered if they speak the truth!
I dont think westerners understand Russian mentality. Typical well off Russians merely care for themselves. If they benefit as described and do not get drafted, they do not care who dies. It is a society with little empathy.
War economy gives strong short term economic growth. Spending increases, there are lots of jobs, wages are high, etc. And Russia has been saving for their war chest for a long time.
But yeah, that’s hoping you’re gonna win the war. Apparently Russia will run out of money by 2025. Shit will hit the fan by then.
The citizenry of any normal country would be absolutely engaged and outraged if their region, such as Kurst, was invaded and occupied. That Russians instead remain not political and generally satisfied me they’re absolutely not in favor of the war.
They haven’t been overrun with illegal immigrants trying to overpopulate the country and change its identity
Because its normal to them. Poor people are poor and stay poor because that’s their normal. If you are surrounded by crime from the day you were born that’s what normal is to you. People are comfortable with normal and view that as what life is so why change it or struggle to change it. Change has always been hard and scary for people and being comfortable is what people want.
For the same reason I’m perfectly satisfied despite the shitty things my government does. I have a great life and an amazing career. I don’t obsess about bullshit I can’t control.
Because if they look sad it’s straight to the gulag.
They don’t know any better. On top of the ‘ehh this is good enough’ mentality