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    Die schwedische Regierung erwägt ein landesweites Bettelverbot

    https://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-democrats-far-right-government-ban-begging/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=social

    Von Apprehensive_Sleep_4

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    30 Comments

    4. Fry-NOR on

      A good start would be to ban foreign nationals from begging.

      People travel across Europe to Sweden and Norway to go begging, this organised and big business. This also brings other problems like drugs, human trafficking and theft.

    5. Fine_Mushroom_9488 on

      Maybe just ban poor people or something? Are they stupid?

    7. 247GT on

      The thing these goverments firget is that people have to live *and they have a right to do so*. Society has been excluding more and more people who don’t conform to artificial requirements implemented to spin cash out of nothing. This has complicated employment but hadn’t improved anything at all along the way.

      Now granted, there are beggars and always have been. Outlawing them is like outlawing homelessness or hunger. It’s absurd in the most absurd and sociopathic way.

      How about these government leaders create societal structures to help people out of these conditions.

    8. Ice_slider on

      Beggars can’t be choosers. Quess it’s time for them to rob people and stores

    9. Round_Parking601 on

      Sweden…I beg you, don’t do this, no, please (apologies for horrendous joke)

    10. DecoupledPilot on

      If it weren’t for my experiences on organized begging at large city main stations I would probably find this bad.

      But having that experience makes me understand that law well.

    14. vivaaprimavera on

      Does the ban also includes the ones who “work” from an altar?

    15. PandaCheese2016 on

      What do Swedes do if they just don’t have bus money or need a cigarette?

    17. Logisticman232 on

      We absolutely should fund social services.

      Personally against giving to beggars because most times if I offer food to “hungry” people they reject it and want cash instead.

    18. bxzidff on

      With a solid enough welfare system this is completely ok. In Norway the beggars who are here legally get a home and food from tax-funded welfare, they don’t have to beg. The beggars who are here illegally should apply to become legal, and will be accepted if they have good reasons, but the ones who currently are begging are “employed” by organized crime from abroad and will naturally not do that. Such organized crime should not be as tolerated by authorities as it has been so far. However, it would probably be better to go after the middle men imo.

    20. space_iio on

      Brilliant idea! Because banning something means people stop doing it! Just perfect.

      They should also ban theft, drugs and violence! That’ll surely work 😀

      /s

    21. eroica1804 on

      Good. Next step would be making sleeping on the streets or public property illegal, or actually start enforcing the rules which are probably already on the books.

    22. Svullom on

      A vast majority of beggars are part of criminal gangs.

      This law is very welcome. There are beggars outside literally every supermarket here in Sweden, even in small towns.

    23. Aranthos-Faroth on

      This is good, it will stop the horrible organised begging syndicates from Romania.

      At the start of summer, almost like clockwork, suddenly there are elderly Roma sitting outside every ICA, Coop and train station looking rightfully miserable.

      And a filthy looking man watching not too far away.

    24. humanbananareferee on

      It is also banned in Turkey, but the only sanction is a small fine. That’s why it is still widespread.

    27. SisterOfPrettyFace on

      There’s already case-law not allowing an international ban on begging from the European Court of Human Rights, to which we are a party via the European Convention on Human Rights both as the Swedish state and the EU.

      This is just more right-wing posturing and if we go through with it, it will cost us greatly a la fines from the EU and Europadomstolen. Not worth the price.

    30. pashtedot on

      Is it hard to becole legal if you’re illegally in sweden? What are the corner cases?

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