Good. By any metric you measure brexit on it has failed. We are all worse off for it. We were lied to.
lawrotzr on
Dear Brits,
I know it’s difficult, but just admit it was all a failure and you’ve been fooled by the same sort of populist clown that a lot of other countries are now allowing into their politics. In fact, in most countries (like mine) they’re even Russia backed. We all feel you and it’s a bloody shame.
Step over your pride, and get back into the EU. Economically and geopolitically it’s just the right and most rational thing to do for your citizens. Especially longer term.
Kento418 on
Lol, more cakeism. It absolutely won’t in any meaningful way whatsoever.
You’re either in or out. Not sure how many times it has to be explained before it sinks in.
Starmer better get on with applying for Single Market and Customs Union reentry if he really cares about getting a better deal for the U.K.
Fit-Courage-8170 on
Nah
katbelleinthedark on
I sincerely doubt it. The EU isn’t significantly worse off due to Brexit.
cyberspacecowboy on
As an actual EU citizen, respectfully UK, get in the back of the line. Make sure you meet the requirements. Switch to the Euro, drive on the proper side of the road. And stop begging for crazy exceptions. You stopped being a meaningful empire long ago
Skirting0nTheSurface on
Brits would probably accept closer economic alignment, but anything that sees a return of freedom of movement, even for under 30s, would be very unpopular here. We have nothing to gain from it and it will once again reduce British citizens economic bargaining power. Despite what the media is saying the British people aren’t desperate to return, yes there are some issues with the EU that could be fixed, but generally our economy is doing fine and outperforming many in the EU.
krazydude22 on
Let’s see how much of an overhaul actually happens. EU wants youth mobility and UK wants better trade access. If both sides get what they want then there is a discussion to be had, but all I see is EU asking for Youth mobility, but what is it offering in return?
Zephinism on
It won’t happen because the current EU demands are ridiculous and very unpopular here.
Unlimited freedom of movement for people aged 18-30.
We saw after Brexit we had 4x more EU citizens in the UK than the UK had in the EU. UK residents in the EU were mainly pensioners in France and Spain.
EU has more youth unemployment than the UK.
Then there’s Erasmus with EU students paying the same as Brits, including free university in Scotland. Brits are already competing with lots of foreign students for placements & the universities in the UK want to raise tuition as they don’t get enough from the current British students.
More competition for young Brits in both education and the workforce while causing more financial distress on universities and wage stagnation on entry level jobs.
jcrestor on
We are really living in a new age of xenophobia. I am really stunned that even the new “left wing” government of the UK seems to be hell-bent on keeping young EU nationals outside. My mind is blown by this. As a German I would never object against a young UK citizen coming over for a year to live in Germany.
The fock is going on?
Lopsided_Quarter_931 on
“more comprehensive deal was rejected out of hand by Starmer, leaving officials in Brussels unsure about how serious the UK really is about beefing up its EU links.”
Labour is just the same shit with a different name. More exceptionalism. Good luck with your crumpling economy.
waronfleas on
For now, it’s best that the UK stays out. It was a massive headache getting them out and it would be a worse one getting them in again.
Until they are actively and by a big majority asking to get in, they need to be out.
dat_9600gt_user on
I hope you do overhaul it, Kier.
AddictedToRugs on
I don’t know why he even went. His stated position that the youth mobility scheme can be discussed as part of a wider discussion that includes things the UK want is the correct one. But the EU have already rejected that position and are demanding the deal be done first. That kind of intransigence is antithetical to negotiations. Reducing your demands while still offering nothing in return isn’t negotiating.
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Good. By any metric you measure brexit on it has failed. We are all worse off for it. We were lied to.
Dear Brits,
I know it’s difficult, but just admit it was all a failure and you’ve been fooled by the same sort of populist clown that a lot of other countries are now allowing into their politics. In fact, in most countries (like mine) they’re even Russia backed. We all feel you and it’s a bloody shame.
Step over your pride, and get back into the EU. Economically and geopolitically it’s just the right and most rational thing to do for your citizens. Especially longer term.
Lol, more cakeism. It absolutely won’t in any meaningful way whatsoever.
You’re either in or out. Not sure how many times it has to be explained before it sinks in.
Starmer better get on with applying for Single Market and Customs Union reentry if he really cares about getting a better deal for the U.K.
Nah
I sincerely doubt it. The EU isn’t significantly worse off due to Brexit.
As an actual EU citizen, respectfully UK, get in the back of the line. Make sure you meet the requirements. Switch to the Euro, drive on the proper side of the road. And stop begging for crazy exceptions. You stopped being a meaningful empire long ago
Brits would probably accept closer economic alignment, but anything that sees a return of freedom of movement, even for under 30s, would be very unpopular here. We have nothing to gain from it and it will once again reduce British citizens economic bargaining power. Despite what the media is saying the British people aren’t desperate to return, yes there are some issues with the EU that could be fixed, but generally our economy is doing fine and outperforming many in the EU.
Let’s see how much of an overhaul actually happens. EU wants youth mobility and UK wants better trade access. If both sides get what they want then there is a discussion to be had, but all I see is EU asking for Youth mobility, but what is it offering in return?
It won’t happen because the current EU demands are ridiculous and very unpopular here.
Unlimited freedom of movement for people aged 18-30.
We saw after Brexit we had 4x more EU citizens in the UK than the UK had in the EU. UK residents in the EU were mainly pensioners in France and Spain.
EU has more youth unemployment than the UK.
Then there’s Erasmus with EU students paying the same as Brits, including free university in Scotland. Brits are already competing with lots of foreign students for placements & the universities in the UK want to raise tuition as they don’t get enough from the current British students.
More competition for young Brits in both education and the workforce while causing more financial distress on universities and wage stagnation on entry level jobs.
We are really living in a new age of xenophobia. I am really stunned that even the new “left wing” government of the UK seems to be hell-bent on keeping young EU nationals outside. My mind is blown by this. As a German I would never object against a young UK citizen coming over for a year to live in Germany.
The fock is going on?
“more comprehensive deal was rejected out of hand by Starmer, leaving officials in Brussels unsure about how serious the UK really is about beefing up its EU links.”
Labour is just the same shit with a different name. More exceptionalism. Good luck with your crumpling economy.
For now, it’s best that the UK stays out. It was a massive headache getting them out and it would be a worse one getting them in again.
Until they are actively and by a big majority asking to get in, they need to be out.
I hope you do overhaul it, Kier.
I don’t know why he even went. His stated position that the youth mobility scheme can be discussed as part of a wider discussion that includes things the UK want is the correct one. But the EU have already rejected that position and are demanding the deal be done first. That kind of intransigence is antithetical to negotiations. Reducing your demands while still offering nothing in return isn’t negotiating.
He’s wasting his, and by extension our, time.