Submission Statement: US Congressman Mike Turner and Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis argue that Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine fits with a long pattern of Russian imperialism throughout history, and the West wrongly assumed after the Cold War that Russia had undergone a fundamental change when in fact it maintained the same ambitions, as demonstrated today by its brutality in Ukraine that recalls previous atrocities in the Balkans, much to the lack of surprise of countries like Lithuania that experienced Soviet oppression.
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Its quite amusing when western institutions take a moral high ground and draw “conclusions” from cherry picked moments from somebodys history.
Taking a moral high ground and acting innocent during global conflicts while stirring them up and escalating is also a pattern in British/American history. Cant wait to read about that.
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Historia magistra vita est.
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Germany, loses a world war they made bigger… starts another one. Everyone is surprised.
Moscow, loses a cold war they started… starts another one. Everyone is surprised.
In my opinion, Berlin doing the things they did wasn’t based on security, but imperialism to rebuild the German Empires, both Austria and Prussia. If France, Italy, Soviet Union, and the UK didn’t exist, Germany would have done the same thing. During that time, Berlin never saw Vienna as a potential threat, and acted on the belief all Germans must live under one state.
For Moscow, I do believe they see Kyiv as a potential threat, based on the desire for the government to join NATO, which means hosting NATO military bases. This is the first perspective, but it trickles down to the perspective of the triune Russian nation theory, that all East Slavs must live under one state. The combination of the two led to why Moscow attacked the rest of Ukraine, and why they didn’t for Georgia or Moldova, they are satisfied with dead wars that make it hard to join NATO. Belarus is in a union with Russian Federation, with Moscow controlling their foreign policy, and to the extension, their domestic policies.
In a hot take opinion, I still think Moscow is doing the things now based on security and the evolution of the geopolitical situation. Hitler’s nationalist socialist take power, immediately starts to carry out policies to restore the German Empires. This leads to bad relations with neighbors, Italy, France, Austria, Poland, etc. Even if German politics was full of the desires to do the same things, no party tried to escalate it as fast as the national socialists did, especially with military.
Russian politics evolved, but Putin and United Russia been running the Russian government for 25 years at this point, which at various times, had good relations with Germany, UK, Turkey, US, and France.
Putin inherited situations, problems, from past Russian governments. Why not attack Ukraine in 2002, why in 2022? There’s a trend, Moscow seems at attack countries (their neighbors) that have internal issues, either directly or indirectly created by them. Ukraine, Georgia, Afghanistan, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, all fit into this.
There’s Poland, Finland, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, all which were attacked within 2 years, and all were part of the former Russian Empire.
There’s definitely many patterns. Putin is closer to Stalin, than Lenin or Trotsky, meaning doing things based on security over the belief of imperialism (revolution). Stalin didn’t believe world revolution, but returned to it based on the evolving geopolitical situation. Lenin believed the world must live under communist states.
I still wonder, why did Putin attack the Ukraine state in 2022? This is actually his first UN recognized state he directly wanted to overthrow using military.
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Submission Statement: US Congressman Mike Turner and Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis argue that Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine fits with a long pattern of Russian imperialism throughout history, and the West wrongly assumed after the Cold War that Russia had undergone a fundamental change when in fact it maintained the same ambitions, as demonstrated today by its brutality in Ukraine that recalls previous atrocities in the Balkans, much to the lack of surprise of countries like Lithuania that experienced Soviet oppression.
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Its quite amusing when western institutions take a moral high ground and draw “conclusions” from cherry picked moments from somebodys history.
Taking a moral high ground and acting innocent during global conflicts while stirring them up and escalating is also a pattern in British/American history. Cant wait to read about that.
Historia magistra vita est.
Germany, loses a world war they made bigger… starts another one. Everyone is surprised.
Moscow, loses a cold war they started… starts another one. Everyone is surprised.
In my opinion, Berlin doing the things they did wasn’t based on security, but imperialism to rebuild the German Empires, both Austria and Prussia. If France, Italy, Soviet Union, and the UK didn’t exist, Germany would have done the same thing. During that time, Berlin never saw Vienna as a potential threat, and acted on the belief all Germans must live under one state.
For Moscow, I do believe they see Kyiv as a potential threat, based on the desire for the government to join NATO, which means hosting NATO military bases. This is the first perspective, but it trickles down to the perspective of the triune Russian nation theory, that all East Slavs must live under one state. The combination of the two led to why Moscow attacked the rest of Ukraine, and why they didn’t for Georgia or Moldova, they are satisfied with dead wars that make it hard to join NATO. Belarus is in a union with Russian Federation, with Moscow controlling their foreign policy, and to the extension, their domestic policies.
In a hot take opinion, I still think Moscow is doing the things now based on security and the evolution of the geopolitical situation. Hitler’s nationalist socialist take power, immediately starts to carry out policies to restore the German Empires. This leads to bad relations with neighbors, Italy, France, Austria, Poland, etc. Even if German politics was full of the desires to do the same things, no party tried to escalate it as fast as the national socialists did, especially with military.
Russian politics evolved, but Putin and United Russia been running the Russian government for 25 years at this point, which at various times, had good relations with Germany, UK, Turkey, US, and France.
Putin inherited situations, problems, from past Russian governments. Why not attack Ukraine in 2002, why in 2022? There’s a trend, Moscow seems at attack countries (their neighbors) that have internal issues, either directly or indirectly created by them. Ukraine, Georgia, Afghanistan, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, all fit into this.
There’s Poland, Finland, Romania, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, all which were attacked within 2 years, and all were part of the former Russian Empire.
There’s definitely many patterns. Putin is closer to Stalin, than Lenin or Trotsky, meaning doing things based on security over the belief of imperialism (revolution). Stalin didn’t believe world revolution, but returned to it based on the evolving geopolitical situation. Lenin believed the world must live under communist states.
I still wonder, why did Putin attack the Ukraine state in 2022? This is actually his first UN recognized state he directly wanted to overthrow using military.