Ozempic hat die Fettleibigkeit bereits bei 2 % der US-Bevölkerung beseitigt. In der Zukunft, wenn seine Generika weit verbreitet sind, werden wir wahrscheinlich mit dem gleichen Entsetzen auf die heutige Zeit zurückblicken wie auf 50 % Kindersterblichkeit und Rachitis im 19. Jahrhundert.
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I’m often struck by how bizarre and unbalanced our society’s priorities are. Vast numbers die from opioid overdoses, but most people obsess over pointless trivia, than are bothered about that fact.
Ozempic makes me think the same. It seems we have a tool to vastly reduce the leading causes of death (cardiovascular, diabetes, even alcohol misuse) – yet has it ever come up in an election? Absolute nonsense and trivia gets more airtime and attention. Giving everyone who needs it a generic version would probably save more lives than were killed in all previous wars in history.
I’ve stopped judging people from the past, and thinking we are smarter today. Future generations will look back and wonder at what dopey idiots we are.
Why would it come up in an election? It takes a while for the government and insurance companies to get the ball rolling on things but now most insurance providers cover Wegovy for weight loss and Medicare/Medicaid are targeting it for their next round of negotiated drugs. This is one of those rare things that is good for people and also good for insurance companies because it saves them a lot of money treating the expensive consequences of obesity. As far as I can tell, the system is working on this one.
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Seems like Rogaine for weight: hard to keep using (lots of side effects for Ozempic), the weight returns once you stop.
More effective would be getting away from processed foods that are engineered to spike appetite.
My (maybe unpopular) opinion. Over the long run, Ozempic will not solve any problems if people continue to eat to much and unhealty. It only combating symptoms and not the cause which is never sustainable. There are always sideffects.
Damn, as a naturally slender person I feel like I am losing advantage.
If we probably fixed our food problem with chemicals or nutritional we may not even need ozempic
I can’t help but think that anti-aging is waiting for its own “Ozempic moment” too.
Obesity used to be considered “a lifestyle problem” no one could easily solve – and so, many didn’t even try. Until a drug came up that just so happened to offer a very real solution to the problem. It didn’t take decades for the attitudes to change. It took a couple years at most.
If a drug came up that just so happened to make aging slow down to a halt, would the same happen to all the people who claim that it’s “natural” and “just a part of life”? Would they, too, start lining up for a magic injection to make their aging problems go away?
I look back at horror right now at how expensive yet easily manufactured insulin is. I’d worry more about how we fix current price fixing in pharmaceuticals before we fantasise how generics of Ozempic might be in the future or it won’t make a difference
I’m just wait 10-20 years to find out what horrible side effects ozempic use causes. I highly doubt that it’s the cure for obesity
As a species, we sure do love just painting over mold.
>In the future, when its generics are widely available, we will probably look back at today with the horror we look at 50% child mortality and rickets in the 19th century.
No. We will look back in horror at why we thought a drug was the answer to our obesity epidemic instead of fixing our food supply or diets.
So many anti-obesity responses saying to just eat “right” and work out. Genetics plays way more of a role in obesity. My wife has PCOS and the drugs have helped immensely regulate her hormones, which is what pcos is – hormonal. Diet and exercise does not change hormones – she’s tried that for years.
Eventually I hope that these treatments lead to more, better drugs for PCOS patients. That way they get relief earlier in life from heavy, long and very painful menstruation, and infertility. Since politicians and groups are already coming at IVF, future drugs may help many conceive naturally instead.
There are people who cannot handle the drug (allergies, paradoxical reactions, etc) and it is not the solution it promises to be.
We still have no idea what the long term health consequences of these drugs are. Don’t start taking victory laps yet
I don’t think we should consider it a miracle. It’s a band-aid on a severe worldwide health crisis, for sure.
Not to mention microplastics will continue to accumulate in our tissues at an increasing rate as the environment continues to break down the plastics we’ve already created, plus the probably high volume of new plastics that are still oil today.
All of the polyester carpets, clothing, plastic that touches food, medical supplies, even our everyday basic meat and vegetables are riddled with microplastics.
We know microplastics are hormone and endocrine disruptors. We are starting to understand how they cause cancer.
I don’t see us actually getting healthier in the near future.
I’ve been obese (by BMI) for more than 30 years. Thanks to Zepbound, I went from obese to overweight about a month ago, and I’m now ten pounds under. So I’m among that 2%. I’ve had no appreciable side effects.
As far as I’m concerned, it really is a wonder drug. Might we discover issues going forward? Sure. But I think we’ll be able to deal with them.
One thing I haven’t seen people talk about is that people on these drugs eat significantly less, which may have a significant effect on the food production ecosystem.
Ozempic is an injectable large-molecule drug. When generics are available for the small-molecule GLP-1 agonists that are being developed to replace it, those will really change the world. Just being able to take a pill that works as well as weight loss surgery will leave out no one who is uncomfortable with injections.
I don’t see references to the numbers of patients that return to be obese after stopping the treatment
How about just stop eating extra large quantities of everything
Wow. This is some great a bullshit.
First, where does this 2% number come from? That seems entirely made up, there has not been a massive reduction of obesity and anything that I’ve ever seen.
Second, The available data that I’ve seen is not suggested that ozempec but causes people to go from overweight to normal weight. Average weight loss was roughly 20%, certainly not nothing, but that was also generally in the context of a broader weight loss program, with managers/helpers, not all of a sudden a bunch of overweight people got healthy and fit.
And some evidence that when people stop taking the drug they reverted back to the normal weight.
This is not a miracle drug. Most people who take it don’t suddenly just start shedding pounds. It’s primary effect, from what I have seen, seems to make it a bit more tolerable to be hungry, if you’re taking a high enough dose. It also causes you to squirt liquid shit for 2 days a week, which probably also helps with the apparent weight loss!
I’m not saying it does nothing, I am saying this article reads to me like total hype bullshit. I can see a bunch of emanciated fashion people using this drug as a way to help tolerate the fact that they’re starving themselves, that’s not healthy.
I think we will look back on this era, not like on rickets, but like sideburns and Nehru jackets.
Give a man a fish he eats for a day, teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime. These drugs didn’t teach people to be thin, they make you thin. And, it is temporary.
I’ve also heard they really mess up your gut and make you vomit and get sick and the problem doesn’t go away once you stop taking them.
There is a big chance that first fixing our food epidemics in this country could in fact eliminate most of the need for ozempic. Big corpos need to be told to make food using real ingredients.
Why is solving obesity with a drug okay? Shouldn’t we as a society try to determine the underlaying causes and work on those rather than always treating the symptoms?