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    Tesla-Hauskontrollen bei kranken Arbeitern werden vom Chef in Deutschland verteidigt

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/27/tesla-home-checks-on-workers-on-sick-leave-defended-by-boss-in-germany?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

    Von rmnc-5

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    2. Independent_Gene_464 on

      This is the kind of stuff Ford used to do to workers back in the 1920s. Are we really going back to that?? I’d rather burn down all the factories than live in that kind of world again.

    3. wil3k on

      When managers have time to do house visits, they certainly have nothing better to do and add no value to the company. I would fire them immediately.

      You’re welcome, Elon.

    4. SteO153 on

      >The move by Elon Musk’s US-headquartered carmaker has sparked outrage at the trade union IG Metall

      It will be fun, IG Metall is the largest union in Germany.

    5. slicheliche on

      Musk really doesn’t seem to get it. Don’t fuck with unions. Ever. You will lose.

    8. superkoning on

      “who have continued to be paid while being on sick leave over the past nine months.”

      I woud like attention from my employer when I’ve been sick for some time. Otherwise I would feel “not needed”.

      But hey … I’m in the Netherlands. 10-20 years ago the Netherlands rules changes: an employer must pay attention to a sick employee, and there must be a plan made together.

      Ah, there it is: employee and employer together must make a re-integration plan within 8 weeks.

      [https://www.juridischloket.nl/werk-en-inkomen/ziekte-en-zwangerschap/re-integratietraject/#:~:text=U%20maakt%20met%20uw%20werkgever%20een%20plan%20van%20aanpak](https://www.juridischloket.nl/werk-en-inkomen/ziekte-en-zwangerschap/re-integratietraject/#:~:text=U%20maakt%20met%20uw%20werkgever%20een%20plan%20van%20aanpak)

    9. radioactiveDuckiie on

      I could be wrong, but even in Germany it is uncommon to be continuously sick for nine months and still being employed. I always thought the employer only had to pay for the first 6 weeks.

      But I am not familiar with the matter. The cleaning lady in our office appeared two times within three months (instead of the scheduled 24 times) and was constantly sick. We hired a cleaning company instead and terminated the position with 3 month notice. She immediately send another sick notice for another six weeks.

    10. jaroslaw-psikuta on

      I don’t get it. In Poland if your doctor won’t tell you to specifically stay at home you can go wherever you want. Obviously going for a foreign vacation won’t be allowed but it’s not like you can’t go to a cinema or take a walk to the beach if you are on a sick leave because you have broken arm or whatever that’s not contagious. Tesla couldn’t do shit here.

    11. Thunder_Beam on

      Weird, in my country it’s actually the state who does those visits and it’s all legal

    12. AK10FN on

      It is obvious that most people have not read about this case. Easy to hate on Elon but what would you do if 20% of your employees have not been at work once in 2024?

    14. Any_Protection_8 on

      When I read the first time about it, I was like, that is stuff you don’t do. And that they will probably apologize and it will be fine. But these morons double down on this…. You guys just created a PR Desaster and every worker will now get legal insurance or unionize. … That is “the office” worthy in my opinion. … Slowly clapping hands…

    15. euclideanvector on

      Yeah, yeah Tesla bad and all that but 200 staff on sick leave for 9 months? WTF

    16. mangalore-x_x on

      This is highly abnormal whatever they claim. Employees are not obligated to be at home, open the door or even answer calls when sick and it is not the company’s business if they are not because the company has no business knowing their medical condition unless it is clear to impact the work contract.

      If they are suspicious of abuse they can contact the health insurance or if they have that mandate an examination by the company’s doctor to verify the medical absence is legit.

      Because: What the fuck is a manager supposed to do about this? They have no right to access any medical files or any training to diagnose shit.

      This behavior is a fast track to run into the union and or a labour lawyer if they terminate people on this basis.

    17. NoWingedHussarsToday on

      I thought that’s standard? When I was on sick leave I was told by doctor what I can and can’t do outside of my home. I can go to the doctor and related stuff, I can do shopping when on my way from such things. But I can’t just go anywhere I want, such as to the cinema. Because sick leave is supposed to get you to recover and you can’t do that if you are doing things that impede that.

      Though here it’s not managers, but they hire private detectives to check on you. IDK how common that is, though.

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