Selenskyj trifft Trump in New York und sagt, beide seien sich einig, dass „Putin in der Ukraine nicht gewinnen kann“.

    https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/09/27/zelensky-meets-trump-in-new-york-says-both-agree-putin-cant-win-in-ukraine-en-news

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    1. FrutaAndPutas on

      So remember that everything that Trump says, he means the opposite

    2. Getting through to Trump implies Zelensky has found a weak spot in his hairspray. LoL

    3. plazebology on

      My issue with Trump isn’t just the hateful, idiotic bull he spits on a daily basis, but how when he eventually embraces reality instead of his wishful fictions there is zero accountability for his tirade of misinformation

    4. KidKilobyte on

      Send this message to Putin for me, or else I’ll tell everybody about…

    5. Zelenskyy is a Smart man

      and think about it

      Trump for political reasons had to meat with this man even against what Trump had said and what Zelensky has said about Trump

      edit: to add to this Zelensky left the meeting with his talking point repeated with Trump included

      Even though Trump was saying the opposite yesterday

      Lololol Trump got schooled

    6. Remember: Trump played down COVID in public but said in private “This is deadly stuff”. He literally caused hundreds of thousands of more deaths needlessly while getting vaxxed as soon it becomes available.

    7. I hope Zelensky knows better than to believe anything the convicted felon/insurrection instigator/election denier/racist/misogynist/sexual assailant/bloviating ignoramus says.

    8. That flacid orange waste of flesh is going to fold the second he lays eyes on his butt-buddy, putin. Trump is either so envious of putin that he gets weak in the knee around him, or putin has mega dirt on Trump (maybe both). That piece of shit will NEVER stand up to putin.

    9. NeverSayNever2024 on

      What intelligent person believes anything that comes out of tRumps mouth

    10. Bitter_Kiwi_9352 on

      Recency bias. He just parrots anything the last person he talked to said, and then steals credit for it, saying it was his idea all along.

    11. Silly-Scene6524 on

      Trump just agrees with whatever, he’ll forget it after the next person tells him what to think.

    12. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2024/09/27/zelensky-meets-trump-in-new-york-says-both-agree-putin-cant-win-in-ukraine-en-news) reduced by 75%. (I’m a bot)
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      > "I think we have a common view that the war in Ukraine has to be stopped and Putin can't win," Zelensky began, adding that Ukraine had to prevail and that he planned to discuss the details of his victory plan with Trump.

      > Despite Zelensky's team indicating last week that he would meet with Trump during his visit to Washington, a Trump campaign official said earlier this week that no such meeting was scheduled, a statement Trump himself walked back on Thursday.

      > In one of the most scathing attacks on the Ukrainian president's handling of the war in Ukraine, Trump hit out at Zelensky on Wednesday for "Refusing to make a deal" with Putin.

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    13. woyzeckspeas on

      Trump is a salesman. His biggest “skill” is to leave everyone thinking he agreed with them.

    14. red75prime on

      “can’t win” in a descriptive or normative sense? Normative I guess.

      The title is technically correct. Zelensky did say “[…] we have a common view that […] Putin can’t win”. Trump hasn’t confirmed or denied that.

    15. islandsimian on

      He will say whatever he thinks the person he’s talking to wants to hear and then sell out to the highest bidder

    16. TooMuchTXN on

      I hope Z gave him personalized wrong victory plans so they can directly trace the leak back to him when Putin mentions it.

    17. Tax-Evasion-Is-Good on

      Someone should remind trump if Russia wins then he is Russias bitch. If Ukraine wins then trump is the big guy to the rest of the world

    18. And 2 months ago via phone, Trump told Zelensky he would be supportive.

      He says what he needs to when he needs to to get the support of his audience. The actual words are meaningless. I am pretty sure Zelensky can sniff out his pandering. He already said this week he understands when we are in an election cycle that affects politicians’ speech.

    19. That’s because Trump doesn’t think the territories are Ukraine’s.

    20. He only changed his mind because hes looks like he will loose – again.

    21. FloodMoose on

      How do we know tbag was not just used as a biochem attack vector on putin’s behalf?

    22. Well, it’s a win, just take it and don’t talk or think about it too much, I guess…

    23. tekguy1982 on

      Trump wants Putin to win, he owes Putin a ton of money through his German bank moms which are financed by Russian money

    24. Trump will say something completely different today. Putin owns him for some peculiar reason.

    25. SuspectKnown9655 on

      Didn’t Trump just say that Ukraine is a lost cause and praise Putin? What did Zelensky say to him lol

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