Mehrheit der Amerikaner weiterhin für Abschaffung des Wahlkollegiums

As has been the case for over 200 years, the Electoral College will determine the outcome of the U.S. presidential race this fall. Yet most Americans have long supported moving away from this system.

The Electoral College allocates a number of electors based on how many senators and representatives each state has in Congress (plus three electors for the District of Columbia, for a total of 538). Most states award all of their electoral votes to the candidate who wins that state.

More than six-in-ten Americans (63%) would instead prefer to see the winner of the presidential election be the person who wins the most votes nationally. Roughly a third (35%) favor retaining the Electoral College system, according to a Pew Research Center survey of 9,720 adults conducted Aug. 26-Sept. 2, 2024.

I just want it to be done so that you don’t get all the electors for a State just by winning the state by 51%. If you win by 51% then you should only get 51% of the electors. That would solve the whole issue while technically preserving the electoral college.

It’s acceptable that a simple majority of votes cast in all elections in America from student class president to state and federal representatives determines the winner.

I’m in strong favor of doing the same for the highest office I vote for.

No more gamesmanship.

No single state should hold more sway than another.

In a democracy, it would be gone.

a majority of Americans want to move away from MAGA

I think if anyone runs into someone defending the electoral college or saying “a handful of big cities shouldn’t decide things for everyone,” they need to ask them this question: “how do you feel about the winner-take-all system? Shouldn’t the electoral vote be, at the very least, proportional to the vote count?” I personally would have less issue with this system if Oklahoma Democrats and Massachusetts Republicans got whatever electoral votes are relevant to their percentage. If 40% went to the loser and 60% to the winner, the electoral votes should reflect that. But regardless, popular vote should determine the winner. It would encourage more turnout and if you think it’s unfair to rural voters, ask yourself why your platform is only appealing to rural voters? Why would you continue to foster an urban-rural divide when both voting blocs need healthcare, education, infrastructure improvements, and jobs?

Is there any realistic way for the EC to be abolished, or is it just not possible?

It is total ridiculous that a candidate can win the popular vote by millions but lose the election because of thousands of electoral college votes.

ya but what do the 535 people who work in Washington DC think?

This result, in addition to support for ending lifetime tenure on SCOTUS, winning a majority of opinion while actually achievable solutions to the problems like expanding the House and adding a couple DCOTUS justices are disfavored just blows my mind.

Had biden stay in and somehow shithouse a electoral win but lose the popular vote it would have been 100%

Well, obviously. The electoral college isn’t FOR the majority.

There are no easy solutions to fix the EC.

Currently, there are 48 states with a winner take all EV system. Maine and Nebraska are the 2 exceptions where a single EV vote in each state goes to a district winner and the rest to the state popular vote winner.

Here are the 4 plausible reform options:

1. Eliminate the EC completely and move to a national popular vote. This requires a Constitutional Amendment and 3/4 of state governments (38 states) to agree. Extremely unlikely, considering the majority of states are red.

2. Expand US House delegation, eg the Wyoming rule. This is one of the easiest options to implement. This requires Dems to have the trifecta in federal government AND eliminate the filibuster. Holding the US Senate this coming election will be extremely difficult.

Keep in mind the Wyoming rule may help a bit, but it’s mostly nonpartisan. As example, it would not have changed the 2016 election results, Trump still would have won.

3. Ask 48 states to change their winner take all EV systems and award EVs on a proportional basis. This would be even more difficult and cumbersome than a constitutional amendment to eliminate the EC.

There is an extremely high risk of partisanship gaming here. If blue states changed their EV winner take all systems and red states didn’t, this would only help Republicans.

There would need to be a fair and balanced implementation process across the union, which requires significant state level coordination.

For example, a nightmare scenario would see California award 20 EVs to Republicans and 34 EVs to Democrats. Meanwhile, Texas would continue to award all of its 40 EVs to Republicans.

4. The Interstate Compact. The compact currently has 209 EVs committed, all blue states. This is a plausible option, but the compact requires swing and red state participation to reach 270 and go into effect. Highly unlikely.

In addition, this compact would be immediately challenged by the courts if it ever went into effect. And do you think the MAGA federal courts including SCOTUS, would defend this compact?

Honestly I think Dems should focus on flipping low population red states. Maybe partner with Big Tech firms to open offices in Wyoming or incentivize remote work out there. 100k Dem voters there would flip 2 US Senate seats and a US House Representive.