Flaggen im Jahr 1444.

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    Von Phlogistoned

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    1. GenericUsername2056 on

      The Burgundian Netherlands belonged partly to the Holy Roman Empire and the Kingdom of France. This maps shows it as fully belonging to the Holy Roman Empire.

    2. wellthatshim on

      otther european countries: let’s design some cool and detailed flags
      ottomans: 🌜

    3. High-Tom-Titty on

      I think England had a white dragon flag at one point, to counter the Welsh red dragon. That would be pretty cool to have, always liked the Welsh flag.

    4. My problem with such maps is that you can barely decipher what pictures are on small countries.

    5. Jussi-larsson on

      Sorry but no 🤔swedish flag came to be during the reign of King Gustav I or his son John III of Sweden

    6. What’s with England’s french provinces not having the same flag as mainland England?

    7. POV : You are launching yet another EU4 game and you are wondering which nation you are going to play this time.

    8. One thing that’s a bit inconsistent, you’ve listed the Republic of Florence as having one of the top 3 incomes however as you have chosen to represent the HRE as one thing this strikes me as odd x

    9. Auroch power.
      Btw this is not accurate, where are all the villages in H.R.E represented?

    10. jimmyrayreid on

      Paradox has made 1444 the most important year in European history it seems

    11. Same old cloth, but the use then is different from now.
      Dannebrog was reserved for the Kings use. It did not become public ownership until 1854 so the common folk could raise it.

      Danes may even overuse it these days. Just try to write “Dannebrogskage” in a google image search. How many other nations are so obsessed with their flag, they would incorporate it into birthday cake?
      Or search for the Dannebrog protest pig. After the 1864 loss of land to Germany there was suppression of anything Danish in the German controlled areas. Danes went as far breeding the pig race https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husum_Red_Pied in order to show they thought themselves Danes and not Germans.

    12. As a EU4 pro gamer I am displeased with this map. The HRE definitifely needs to be shown in each individual flag.

      Also why is Oldenburg in the HRE?

    13. Lonely_Eggplant_4990 on

      One look at Ireland and you will understand why we are so clannish

    14. The Swedish flag didn’t look like that in the 1400s. The oldest record with the yellow cross is from the 1600s. Three crowns, possibly?

    15. Croatia, Scotland, Albania, Serbia, Ottomans, Wallachia, Moldavia are wrong.

    16. This is a modern Vytis flag used for the Grand Dutchy of Lithuania. Probably similar mistake elsewhere.

    17. A_parisian on

      So either you play the game and add duchy level armoiries all over or you don’t.

      Brittany is a duchy pretty much like Provence, Anjou or Normandy. Not an independent kingdom. Dukes of Brittany must pledge allegiance to the king of France and send troops when asked.

      On top of that, even if the duchy of Normandy wasn’t yet fully liberated in 1444, it never waved the armoires of England. The armoiries of Normandy are the 3 leopards that you used for England. So it’s the other way around. The English royal armoiries of leopards and fleur de lys actually come from the duchy of Normandy and their claim on the French throne.

      On top of that the battle of Agincourt is a battle within the collection of incessant hostilities called the Hundred Years War. Summing up the 100 years war to Agincourt is really odd. The English endured more crushing and decisive defeats of the same scale at like Patay, Forming or especially Castillon.

    18. Adept_Rip_5983 on

      You lazy ass couldnt be bothered with flagging the individual nations of the holy roman empire. A 1444 map without Ulm is not worth its salt.

    19. wwwtourist on

      Order of St. John knights (“Maltese’ knights) arrived in Malta in 1530. In 1444 they were still on Rhodes.

    20. _CZakalwe_ on

      Why change something that works. Imagine the cost to re-print all, new flags and stuff.

    21. GianLuka1928 on

      Serbia and Albania were not so great back then? They were not so Serbs and Albanians as they say? 🥺

    22. No_Named_Guy on

      Hell naw whoever put that lizard horse thing with white background instead of a beautiful white krepost’ with red background on the Novgorod republic’s territory should repent.

    23. Bambam_Figaro on

      I have a feeling there’s a British bias in there somewhere. 

      Out of the 5 notable “wars”, 3 are involve Britain/England.  

       Why is Agincourt more significant than Castillon? Only one of those two battles ended the 100 years war, leading to historical significance. Agincourt was an English victory, but ultimately didn’t settle a major conflict.

      Also, it seems to me that the kingdom of Navarra is missing, I thought it’s Northern remnants only joined France in 1589? 

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