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    Starmer verspricht rasches Vorgehen gegen Sozialbetrüger | Sozialhilfe

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/24/starmer-promises-swift-action-against-welfare-fraudsters

    Von Bednarz

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    38 Comments

    2. Loreki on

      Benefit fraud cases are often small scale, because the individual payments are small. You need to steal dozens of identities in order to create a situation in which you are making a high amount.

      If you’re going to be a fraudster, it’s simply more efficient to engage in online frauds like phishing scams.

      That government’s panic and talk up benefit fraud is simply a way to demonise the poor and it’s the kind of right wing bullshit I had hoped Labour wouldn’t do.

    3. MediocreWitness726 on

      Going after pittance from benefit claimers when others have pointed out you have companies from COVID that owe billions as well as huge corps that avoid tax.

    5. YaGanache1248 on

      Why don’t you tackle long term sickness by improving mental health services?

      Make up the “missing” 22billion by going after corporations and super rich tax dodgers.

      But sure, go after the person who got £1000 more than they should have, not the person/company who didn’t pay £1,000,000

    6. Seeamanaboutadug on

      Why does the government subsidise low pay and businesses via in-work benefits? Better skills and retraining grants, more automation, higher wages, scrap in-work benefits and vastly increase benefits for those who cannot do any job due to their disability.

    7. Whisky_Chaser on

      Funny how the red tories are no different than the blue tories in attacking poorer people first and rich tax dodging back handing look after me and I’ll look after you cunts last if not ever.

    8. actuarynewsmod on

      He’s being a prosecutor again against people who absolutely can not afford expensive lawyers like famous BBC presenters can. Hey, teacher, leave them kids alone!

    9. pikantnasuka on

      They’re all obsessed with this, as if *that* is where all the money goes.

      Look closer, maybe, pols. It’s your peers that rob us.

    10. _Spiggles_ on

      This is great but you’d make more money going after the rich who tax dodge.

    11. TinFish77 on

      Translation: ‘We are going to go after those low-hanging fruits that people just hate. This is so you don’t feel quite so bad about what’s going to happen to you.’

      I really don’t see it as working, the public are just not going to accept Austerity any more.

    12. Manoj109 on

      How much is being lost due to benefits fraud? Are they going after wee Dave who overclaim on his CB and disability payments?

      Will they be going after the likes of Michelle Mone and other corporate frauds and the corporate tax Dodgers?

      Starmer. You can’t out reform reform.

    13. jimthewanderer on

      Prime Minister loudly announces he is an idiot to anyone with a basic grasp of the issue. More at Ten.

    14. joeythemouse on

      So we have the same shit coming out of different arseholes.

      Is this what they’ve spend 14 years preparing? The same Daily Mail bullshit?

      It’s fucking desperate if this is keynote speech.

    15. clbbcrg on

      Meaningless bs platitudes .. benefit fraud barely exists.. In the way it’s portrayed to the general public at least.. maybe concentrate on the millionaires not paying tax rather than someone getting £80 week for job seekers.. tory policies from “change” labour..

    16. Spare-Reception-4738 on

      Disabled and unpaid carers should be terrified … dealing with DWP about to get worse

    17. actuarynewsmod on

      Going after people without means to defend themselves. Lawyers enjoy doing that.

    18. Jodeatre on

      Can we get swift action against corporate greed and tax dodging instead of chasing the lowest return?

    19. znidz on

      This is just basic, headline rhetoric.
      Doesn’t mean anything and is just throwing something out for the Mail and Sun readers.
      Benefits fraud is insignificant but it is emotionally significant to a recent tranche of voters who have recently voted Labour.

    20. Apsalar28 on

      As long as they target all those nice middle class Daily Mail readers who are currently moving Mum and Dad’s savings into their ISA so the Holy Pensioners can claim pension credit and still get their winter fuel payments I may be ok with this.

    21. poopoopoopoooooo on

      I’d rather my tax money went to some guy who doesn’t like wasting his life at a shit job and would rather eat chips all day, than a missile to blow up some Palestinian babies.

    22. Equivalent_Whole_423 on

      What about corporate fraud and welfare? Much bigger fish to fry before going after the poorest in society.

      I suppose it’s just red meat for the right wingers who see Darren with a 55″ flat screen through their window while they walk the dog and have been conditioned to cry about it.

    24. salamanderwolf on

      how about promising swift action against the likes of Amazon? Oh right, won’t do that. May not get his football tickets if he pisses of businesses.

    26. Allnamestaken69 on

      Oh great we continue to punch down against a small group of people (people on welfare/poor etc) to find the few fraudsters that exist.

      This will inevitably result in people dying due to mistake and the dwp taking harsh action against the wrong people like always.

      Why can’t we promise swift action against tax dodgers and large businesses that never pay their fair share.

    27. One_Menu1900 on

      It seems there are very few benefits fraudster s. FACT
      But surprsingly many wealthy people stash their hoards offshore so as not to support our economy which they are leaching and have done for decades FACT Now Blackhole to fill ! Think more action there ! Weve paid tax and worked paid Nat Ins VAT still do Didnt choose when born or ti hiw disability would blight our lives

    28. Boogaaa on

      What about going after the biggest scroungers of public money – other MPs and the Royals?

    29. BluebirdDesigner5267 on

      Nothing about politicians taking gifts in exchange for favourable policies in the future, no?

      I don’t know any working class people who are living any sort of high life.

    30. Additional_Net_9202 on

      This plays in to the narrative that the benefits system is full of fraud. This creates animosity in the public mind about people on benefits. This usually precedes some sort of harsh austerity measure against the least well off.

      Labour playing the same game as the Tories did. Utterly pathetic from Starmer

    31. soulsteela on

      As previously seen multiple times, it will cost upward of £10 billion to find £1.5 billion in fraud we’ve seen it dozens of times.

    32. fantasy53 on

      Cracking down on benefit fraud is like throwing a cup of water at a raging Inferno.
      And it will be the poor and Disabled to suffer again, what about the 45 billion loss to bounce back loan fraud from small and medium size businesses, when will we taxpayers ever see any of that money again?
      Yet it would be seen as unacceptable to vilify all small business owners, meanwhile it’s perfectly fine to do the same to the Disabled.

    33. -InterestingTimes- on

      Sounds like a tory, looks like a tory, smells like a tory….

    34. ash_ninetyone on

      I’ve heard this one before. Wasn’t there a report about how that caused unnecessary deaths by outsourcing disability assessments and fraud for what is a minority of cases?

      Not that programmes like Benefits Street helped either.

    35. Ambitious_Display845 on

      Stop being red tories!
      Billions of pounds of benefits go unclaimed each year in the UK. Benefit fraud is a miniscule drop in the ocean.

      Work on tax avoidance, tax fraud and – what is apparently one of the larger sucks of underpaid tax – just people being incompetent and making mistakes!

    36. Kind_Dream_610 on

      How about swift action on MPs who accept gifts while cutting benefits, or MPs who cosy up to lobbyists who pay for your time at dinners that cost more than the average person makes in a month.

      Hypocrisy is the only word for it. (well, I’m sure there are tonnes of others)

    37. ShoutingIntoTheGale on

      Benefit fraud? What is this guy living in 2019 or something? We’re spending billions on pointless wars that do nothing for the people of this country, right now.

    38. No-Tooth6698 on

      Benefit fraud is absolutely miniscule compared to tax evation and avoidance. But of course we have to go after the poors.

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